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Quick Question: resleeving as infomorph

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Fri, 2016-05-20 03:03
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uwtartarus uwtartarus's picture
Quick Question: resleeving as infomorph
Do you roll Integration for sleeving as an infomorph, I got the impression not. Since infomorphs are not synthmorphs, and the penalty table for resleeving (integration/alienation) seems to imply by way of penalizing only alienation, and the explicit use of terms like "morph" in the description, I suspect that infomorphs do not roll Integration (SOM×3), is that right? EDIT spelling
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Fri, 2016-05-20 03:17
MrWigggles MrWigggles's picture
I do. They're being sleeved
I do. They're being sleeved into the digital morph thing I can't spell. Its just as potentially shocking to be an ethereal projection of a person then a corporal person.
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Fri, 2016-05-20 13:29
Noble Pigeon Noble Pigeon's picture
How I run it is, if you're a
How I run it is, if you're a non-infolife entity sleeving as an infomorph, you're going to suffer a -10 penalty for Integration tests, since I would consider an infomorph a "synthetic morph". If you fail, you only suffer a -10 penalty to all physical actions, which means that if you try to interact with the physical world via the Mesh (teleoperating, jamming, etc.) it's going to be a bit disorienting, but any other actions in the Mesh is fine.
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Fri, 2016-05-20 13:29
Noble Pigeon Noble Pigeon's picture
How I run it is, if you're a
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Fri, 2016-05-20 13:49
Trappedinwikipedia Trappedinwikipedia's picture
An Infomorph also seems like
An Infomorph also seems like it would be an exotic morph.
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Sat, 2016-05-21 08:57
MrWigggles MrWigggles's picture
No, I dont think an info
No, I dont think an info morph would be an exotic morph. Since simluspace is very common, I think its a good assumption that nearly every ego has experience being just a digital thingy.
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Sat, 2016-05-21 14:50
Lazarus Lazarus's picture
When you say 'resleeve as an
When you say 'resleeve as an informorph' what are you referring to specifically? Resleeving from some other morph into being an infomorph? Moving from one server to another? Changing your Eidolon? I would think that in case 1 or 3 you would definitely need to make integration and alienation tests. You are undergoing a fairly significant change which you have to compensate for (integration) and which will call into doubt your sense of identity (alienation) since your own abilities are changing without direct contribution from you (i.e. without you practicing or studying to gain or improve those abilities). In case 2 you might be required to make tests if the server change has a significant impact on your abilities but I would probably be pretty lenient. Sleeving from a massive specialized server that boosts your abilities into an ecto? Yeah, probably need alienation and integration tests. Sleeving between two different servers with highly comparable abilities, probably not. In the end a lot of it probably comes down to understanding the tests. Is the change significant enough that you will have to make big adjustments in processes like going from flying a Piper Cub to a Cessna? Sure, you know how to fly and they are both light aircraft but their performance capabilities are different and dials and gauges are all in different places. That's an integration test. Does the change challenge your sense of identity through things such as suddenly being unable to do math problems you could easily do a minute ago or becoming a disembodied intelligence? That's an alienation test. Little changes can probably be absorbed without too much difficult. When you drive a similar car to your own car its performance is still a little different since the wear on the tires are different, the engine isn't tuned quite the same, the alignment is subtly different, etc. but that's not an integration test. Likewise, when you get your hair cut that doesn't challenge your sense of identity and require an integration test. As a result moving from one server to another server with comparable ability probably doesn't require tests, IMO.
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Sat, 2016-05-21 18:17
Trappedinwikipedia Trappedinwikipedia's picture
MrWigggles wrote:No, I dont
MrWigggles wrote:
No, I dont think an info morph would be an exotic morph. Since simluspace is very common, I think its a good assumption that nearly every ego has experience being just a digital thingy.
Being an infomorph, and being in a simspace are really different things. A simspace is basically a really complete AR highjacking of you body, but it's usually in a similar and comprehensible environment, where your body is pretty similar. Infomorphs have a direct experience of digital life, so stuff like a timing chip rather than a heartbeat and a bunch of other infomorph specific experiences.
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Sun, 2016-05-22 04:00
DivineWrath DivineWrath's picture
I don't think infomorphs do
I don't think infomorphs do integration tests. The resleeving rules have a section on infomorphs. It mentions continuity and alienation tests, but it says nothing about integration tests, so I think its safe to say its not a thing. Even if I'm wrong, the penalties you suffer for integration tests are really meaningless for infomorphs because they affect physical skills. It would be a waste of your time to actually roll it even if it was supposed to happen.
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Failure Character has some trouble acclimating to new morph. They suffer a –10 modifier to all physical actions for 2 days plus 1 day per 10 full points of MoF.
Before anyone mentions this, severe failure is the exception. Severe failure affects all skills, not just physical. Yet somehow critical failure affects only physical skills with a large penalty. Might I suggest that normal failure is -10, severe is -20, and critical is -30. I think that would be a good fix for this weird exception.
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