Dimuscul wrote:

I have a pair of doubts about muses. Are muses visible to others characters?

A muse is a piece of software running on somebody ecto or implant. So you can't necessarily "see" it, but other characters could certainly interact with it. It's probably very common for muses to screen calls, so other characters probably interact with a muse all the time.

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If a NPC (or a PC) falls in love with a muse, can they enter a simulspace to have sexual relations?

Sure, but I bet that society would view this as kind of weird. Sort of like the "playing with yourself cause you can't get a real partner..."

Call me an old-fashioned cephalopod, but ain't nobody having sex with [i]my[/i] muse. So keep your pervy thoughts to yourselves, ladies.

One of my previous characters was a hacker who had a Muse and Kaos AI both living as small floating objects in their AR, called Geo and Azathoth. Geo assumed various geometric shapes, and Azathoth was a writhing mass of tentacles. The two regularly argued. It was quite amusing.

I disagree. It's probably seen mostly as more than masturbation, less than a relationship. Everyone knows how attached you can get to your muse, after all. It only becomes worrying when you spend more time with your AI friend than your "real" friends. It's probably seen as playing too many video games is today.

Yerameyahu wrote:

I still think that's vastly more accepted and common in EP as well. I get the feeling that the norm for much of transhumanity is workaday slog, then play video games until it's work time again.

You mean my transhuman future life will be just like my life now? Well [i]shit[/i]. :(

I agree, but only in the most liberal sense of the term "games". The mesh, after all, is big, and so is the human imagination. A person might go to work and do a few hours in the office, then come home while their servitor makes them a dinner with nutrient requirements set by a signal from their medichines sent by their muse. They get into their favourite chair, eat their meal, and go through their feeds in AR; check the news, check their mail, browse their favourite mesh sites, etc. Then, when they're done eating, they either play solo games on something equivalent to a game console, or join up a VR world. And what then? People might participate in whole digital nations, build entire worlds, and live in ways that vary from the mundane to the truely bizarre. I can imagine all the obvious ones, such as pastoral landscapes or impossible landscapes where people go to relax or burn off steam with wild parties/orgies, or the large sims created as combat zones where people go on quests or fight wars. The most common/popular that I imagine, though, is ones where people go to live a second life remarkably like the first ("I just got done my shift at the office, now to go work my shift at my digital store!"), except that the cheapeness of resources makes doing what they WANT to do far easier than in meatspace. Are you bored and unfulfilled in your life as a mid-level distribution manager for one of Cognite's nootropic production facilities? Why not come work as a desk clerk for a digital store? Maybe it's a friend's store and you're doing them a favour, or maybe you just want to interact with people. Whatever the case, they come by, you talk, you show off things, and you actually feel like a human being. Maybe you find you're actually pretty good at designing clothing, or art, or music, or writing books, or movies, or whatever you like. Maybe you're terrible at it but enjoy doing it so much that you spend your free time practicing at it until you are. Perhaps you could open your own little store? Or just wear your designs and sell them to people who ask. I figure that, when people can live out their fantasies, they'll quickly realize that the ones they want the most are the simplest ones: The feeling of fulfillment in doing one's job; of creating things they love; of being self-sufficient; of being in control of their destiny. Being Drunkass McBeard, Dwarven Warrior, is cool and all... But after a while, you start to wonder where the point is. Even if you choose to take fulfillment in that game, because of how impressive your swordsmanship now suddenly is, you might start up a mercenary company or something, just so you feel you've accomplished something.

KevinWI wrote:

valen wrote:

Sure, but I bet that society would view this as kind of weird. Sort of like the "playing with yourself cause you can't get a real partner..."

Actually "playing with the family dog because you can't get a real partner" came to my mind...

Here you have it!! 10 AF's Family Guy, every Sunday on ExperiaFox at 8, EST (Elysium Standard Time) In the Euro-comics Travis, there's a GREAT idea for a muse. She's called Peggy and she behaves a lot like a Muse do. I don't know if the book exist in French, but it's a recommended reading

The heart wants what the heart wants. You're applying a very physical-centric perspective, first, and maybe they don't want to romantically love something they *created*. Or maybe they don't *like* synthetics (just VR). Tastes vary (wildly), and someone could call building your partner 'pathetic'. :)

Prime Mover wrote:

I've always like the idea that my Muse would be more like my wingman. Helping find and design virtual and real world connections. I would never "date" my Muse. The breakup would be messy, who gets to keep the implants?

Depends. Pray that you don't have a puppet sock or cyberbrain. "I'm leaving you." "Hey, remember that hacking skillsoft you gave me?" "Wait... NOOO- Ah, that's better. Now to ruin his reputation."

Prime Mover wrote:

Imagine how awkward, having to put up with someone else's quirks who might not even support and encourage your goat girl fetish.

That's what the lifestyle of an outer system dreg is for. One of my players had a character who had an obsessive love for his slightly mad muse. Gave some interesting roleplay opportunities as he would do anything for her, but she didn't exactly have his interests in mind. Awesome way to mess with the party in a very real and frustrating sense. He was a neo-hominid ex cage fighter. They weren't about to force him to get rid of her.