Let's do some brainstorming of the technology the various factions of EP might develop in the next 20 years or so. Here's what I have come up with so far:
[list][*]better nanoswarms
[*]better fabbers
[*]ego mapping
[list][*]better ego merging
[*]improved skillsofts
[*]knowledge extraction
[list][*]knowledge skillsofts
[*]knowledge databases[/list][/list]
[*]Magnetic monopoles(we don't know if these are possible, but they are predicted by some theories)[list]
[*]Induced proton decay
[*]Incredibly effective railguns
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Near-Future EP Inventions
Fri, 2012-09-14 13:38
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Decimator
Near-Future EP Inventions
Fri, 2012-09-14 19:30
#2
Clunker
What about Qbit comms that
What about Qbit comms that DON'T expend? Current theory seems to support that such would be easier to make than the "1bit = 1Qbit", and that each Qbit can only be used once...
Fri, 2012-09-14 20:08
#3
Arenamontanus
Clunker wrote:What about Qbit
Sorry, but the fragility of qubits is kind of based on physical law. If you can re-use them, then quantum mechanics is no more.
Now, given how weird quantum information theory is, I could imagine that somebody could figure out a way of using the qubit link to entangle two other bits so that you now have extra qubits - that would allow an indefinite QE link. However, I think I have seen papers limiting the "quantum bandwidth" that probably imply that this doesn't work.
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Fri, 2012-09-14 20:16
#4
Arenamontanus
Improved psychosurgery,
Improved psychosurgery, allowing adding new functions to the brain (as biotech implants, new skills, or even neural Muses).
Deception detection technology. (Big social impact if it works!)
Various forms of cognitive networking, building from the neo-synergists. Could range from digital telepathy to group minds to emotion/memory-augmented AR (when you see certain objects they trigger emotional responses or other's memories)
YGBM hacks and other persuasion technologies. Weaponized mindcontrol. Social cohesion methods.
Some monopole theories suggest they could cause proton decay.
Maybe dark matter-based technology: literally invisible and untouchable devices (hard to make and control, of course)
A method to produce small quantum black holes. Tends to evaporate in Hawking radiation straight away... unless carefully fed to become dangerous.
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Sat, 2012-09-15 08:18
#5
Quincey Forder
Arenamontanus wrote:Improved
I bet it would be made illegal for civilians to own, but vastly used by hyperorps, maybe even the Jovian Republic in secret, of course!
That would also make stealing memories, or erasing them, kinda like the upcoming game from Dontnod and Capcom, Remember Me. YouTube it, I think y'all will love it!
Examples, please?
Some monopole theories suggest they could cause proton decay.
Wouldn't that make stuff like mass effect tech possible?
Or, with special implants, having real life (real from the EPverse perspective, that is) version of the Biotics.
Now, coupled with a new all female morph based on the remade and menton morph equipped with such magnetic monopole implant...
Hello, Asari ladies!
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Sat, 2012-09-15 20:57
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The Doctor
Arenamontanus wrote:Now,
What about tying possible bits of a message in the identity of a particular qubit on one side. For example, qubits 0-65536 are equivalent to 'A', 65537-131073 are equivalent to 'B', and so forth?
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Mon, 2012-09-17 08:40
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Arenamontanus
Quincey Forder wrote:Quote
Imagine marketing that really does convince people. Information patterns that convince people about the truth or untruth of things, perhaps triggering mental illusions ("People will tend to overlook you the suit, since it is printed with a distraction-inducing pattern. The visor filters it out so you can see yourself and your teammates. We have another setting where the pattern triggers feelings of social authority, but it is experimental.") Memes that can contain "payloads" of subliminal commands: everybody who has been listening to that earworm retro-J-pop song will go on a rampage when given the right verbal command. Pheromones or memes that make social groups function better: the social system is literally augmented, with more trust and loyalty.
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Mon, 2012-09-17 10:15
#8
Prophet710
In 20 years, there could be
In 20 years, there could be prototype gravity-based technology or wormhole technology reverse engineered from the Pandora Gates, more understanding, though still limited is enough to spawn some rather heinous devices that only the crazies and the highly paid are willing to use. Similar to the space-fold drives of Dune before the Guild Navigators.
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Mon, 2012-09-17 10:29
#9
Smokeskin
Arenamontanus wrote:
Now imagine that you get "patches" for some of them - run this small XP and it won't work on you anymore. Others, you need to have your muse set up to scan your sensory stream and filter YGBM patterns.
Discovering a YGBM pattern would be like finding an exploit for a program, with all the usual implications of zero-day exploits before everyone patches their brains and updates their muse YGBM filters.
Mon, 2012-09-17 12:04
#10
Arenamontanus
Prophet710 wrote:In 20 years,
Well, anything that can fold space on a scale large enough to let a ship through can likely fold space to make a macroscale black hole - that kind of tech might be a good Fermi paradox explanation and the real reason Factors don't want us to investigate the gates too closely:
"Last civilisation that figured out the gates invented a hyperdrive. Two weeks later their star imploded into a black hole, burning all their habitats and planets. The remaining survivors tried to rebuild, but as soon as they squabbled that system also turned supernova. After about 20 supernovas the remnant renounced the drive technology. Then they discovered something else, and just disappeared."
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Tue, 2012-09-18 09:34
#11
PredatoryMollusk
Y'know, it just occurred to
Y'know, it just occurred to me that this would make an AWESOME book for EP, or at least a chapter in the next Panopticon. This is honestly the kind of thing that I have the most trouble coming up with myself, because I don't even understand the precursors of EP technology, let alone what they could grow into.
So a bit of text on developing technology in the setting, and a brief explanation of how it might work, would be awesome. Rather than extend the timeline for a few years like a lot of people have been saying, show us how things could change if we go in this direction.
Also, I love that dark matter idea. "Sir, our drone has infiltrated the enemy base... I think"
Tue, 2012-09-18 18:22
#12
Arenamontanus
Yeah, a "Next Big Thing" book
Yeah, a "Next Big Thing" book explaining new tech and showing some of its implications would be cool. It can be hard to keep track of high quality technobabble/prediction and the complex consequences.
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Wed, 2012-09-19 20:15
#13
Unity
Arenamontanus wrote
If that were the case, it'd be really nice if they just explained that.
Of course, then some crazies might do it intentionally...
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Thu, 2012-09-20 10:54
#14
King Shere
Architecture
I was thinking that technological change could also be manifested as change of Architecture. There exist varios kinds of Architecture, and given time there should be noticable changes in them.
Examples
*Gradually phasing out living spaces in favor of virtual existance inside simulspaces.
*Compact spaces are gradually phased out for more lavished and grandious accomodations.
*Spam in spam, a new information architecture allows spam to infest food (remembering something about this in a earlier thread)
*The Floor numbering system of faction and their habitat change (especially noticable for those that doesnt rely on mesh tag navigation).
-"This appartment now has the address h4xf2, check!"
*accepted comfort change and must have accessories
-"Today entertainment device is W1M "(tomorrow its W1T)
The change of architecture could also be quick and last less than a day,Perhaps A speceport could look like a forest one day, and a byzantine palace the next.
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Fri, 2012-09-21 14:33
#15
nezumi.hebereke
Unity wrote:Arenamontanus
For humans, that process is inevitable. We will always push the bounds of exploration. We will always compete with one another for resources. And there will always be scenarios where actual or threatened mutual destruction provides the greatest perceived gains.
Fri, 2012-09-21 14:55
#16
Prophet710
I dunno if I agree with all
I dunno if I agree with all of that. Looking around right now the human psyche is already in the process of another evolutionary leap, bringing us one step closer to unity while putting away the prohibitions and inhibiting beliefs of the past. It is true there is no progress without pain but the whole inevitability of such, especially concerning the future of our race, is a bit too large of an assumption to make. Only the foolish deal in absolutes. (Or the Sith). :)
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Fri, 2012-09-21 18:02
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Fri, 2012-09-21 18:20
#18
Prophet710
Wow, moron spam-bot this time
Wow, moron spam-bot this time.
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Sat, 2012-09-22 05:13
#19
Xagroth
Prophet710 wrote:In 20 years,
A few days ago I found an article in my Pulse app about how the NASA is researching an old (16+ years old!) report about how it would be possible to "fold" space (aka "Wormhole travel"). The original work was quite close to the Contact movie device: a spheroid in the middle of an "halo". Sadly, the energy requirements back then were equivalent to Jupietr's mass.
What prompted that to become an important news, is that by increasing the halo from thin to very tridimensional, the energy requirements would go down to the equivalent mass of the Voyager 1.
So maybe AF20 has FTL travel...
Sat, 2012-09-22 12:52
#20
Prophet710
Interesting, I've always been
Interesting, I've always been curious how wormholes work. Arena had stated that you could make two wormholes and them move one to a distant destination and use them for travel. What blow's my mind is, how the hell do you make and then move a wormhole? And, if you're bending space-time to make a wormhole, how can you not program said device to simply open up a wormhole at your target destination, as opposed to having to move it manually?
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Sat, 2012-09-22 13:04
#21
Unity
Prophet710 wrote:Looking
Wait, where?
*tries to brush the filthy humans off!*
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Sat, 2012-09-22 13:17
#22
Arenamontanus
Prophet710 wrote:What blow's
Moving wormholes: all realistic wormhole models involve some form of negative energy to keep them open, typically supplied by exotic matter. This would likely either entirely fill the wormhole throat (likely making them hard to travel through) or some form of mesh framework like a polyhedron where most of the curvature resides. So to move the wormhole you move the exotic matter and it follows... (we assume: to my knowledge nobody has ever solved the GR equations for an accelerated wormhole).
Also, wormholes will likely react to gravitational fields, so it is likely possible to push them around using heavy masses. After all, spacetime curvature interacts with itself.
Opening wormholes remotely: The big problem is topology change. General relativity describes the curvature of spacetime and how it interacts with matter and energy. It does not prescribe what the underlying topology ("how many holes") of spacetime. So in order to go from a spacetime with no wormholes to one with a pair, something magic has to happen outside general relativity, like some quantum gravity process. The problem is that quantum gravity is likely really local: whatever it does, it happens over small regions of spacetime. So you are likely able to get wormhole pairs on the microscale, but not conveniently located far away.
Another way of seeing the problem is causality. Imagine an empty spot of spacetime: nothing is happening there. Suddenly a big wormhole opens up. What is the explanation in the laws of physics? Note that most laws of physics are local: how a small piece of the universe changes depends on it and its other neighbouring small pieces. But this is a nonlocal change where the real cause resides elsewhere in space and time. Not entirely impossible, since quantum mechanics has nonlocal interactions too, but it plays merry hell with causality. After all, as I have been explaining numerous times in other threads, if you allow FTL stuff to happen, then the time ordering go out of the window. That wormhole could be caused by an action your future - there is literally no cause of it at present.
Remote wormholes open up a whole can of worms (pun intended). They make excellent bombs: just throw a wormhole-opener device close to the enemy and have it open a gate to the core of a neutron star. And you can throw it using a wormhole, so they can't see it coming. And by making use of the time-travel angle, why not open a gate to Earth far before the Fall, invade with EP tech and make things *right*?
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