Moxie at my sense is little like chance ... somewhere in the universe a creature like god (if such thing existe) said : Wooo ! I Fuck to much with this people ! view it like Karma, use it, it's Ok ... but when you look at your sheet and you don't have any point left to dodge the plasma bolt who will splash your new shinny Ghost morph ... Mein ! Too Bad ! Dude ! sure if you replenish (?, not sure of the orthographe) the Moxie after each game ... maybe the god like creature will see it at a bad thing (Gm choice)

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I just heard Pony's drawl

LOLZ dude ya got me there. Do I type with a babtist accent? :D

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Already anticipated in the original post.

Ya, I read it I just found I couldn't ignore it. I think the second example is the better example, with a slight correction; if it's an 'expensive' secret he can do it once every [i]Three[/i] months. AFAIK [u]There's nothing in the rules that will stop him.[/u] I can't really think of a framework for a house rule that will stop a player from doing something stupid in every situation. And that's my other point. As far as dice play goes the game is fairly well ballanced. So do we need a rules that states implicitly: "Droppin dime on your sources for credit will get your stack and your backup erased and your sources and all of their family will die horrible deaths. Roll COG + SAV + WILL to avoid doing something that will turn the game setting against you." It kinda depends on whether you play EP more like a boardgame or a Role game. Sometimes I wish the rules would simulate the setting to that depth. I absolutely hate having discussions at the game table about; "What? The rules said I can do [insert stupid setting contradiction action]" I am definitly a simulationist role gamer and fairly conservative in my reading of RAW. But rules don't simulate the setting that deeply. They don't need to because this situation is covered by two broad rules. 1. One of the player's is called a GM. He's not a player, he's not an oponent, he simply plays the reaction of the setting to the character's actions. 2. The Ultimate Rule on p. 114. "Have Fun" wich translates loosly into rednekian ;) as: "If someone pisses on your adventure by playing rules loopholes instead of a PC take this 394 pages of hardcopy and beat that fucker smartly about the head and ears until he repents." If you're interested in house rules; my standard is that dumbasses get smacked 3d10 times +1 for each page they havn't read in the front half of the book.

One way you can fix this issue is to simply make it so that moxie cannot affect voluntary penalties. That means that all penalties for hiding a networking roll, or even speeding up a task action, and any other time where the player can take a penalty to his roll for a different benefit, are counted as though still present.