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Living with Endocrine Control

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Illusionist Illusionist's picture
Living with Endocrine Control
Greetings, forums! Long-time lurker, first-time poster here...and a liberal-arts major who grew up on soft sci-fi. (My writing mind [i]insists[/i] FTL is needed, because it [i]refuses[/i] to spend 270 days in transit to Neptune.) Anyway. Endocrine Control. Off its description, it 'allows the character to completely control their appetite and emotions'. Unlike Emotional Dampers, there's no note that it can be turned on and off at will, so presumably it's always on. My question therefore is - [i]what the hell must that be like?[/i] I'm not as well-versed into the mysteries of biology as I am in other fields, sadly. I can imagine the combination of endocrine control and adrenal boost; 'fight time' kicking in, the body clearing for action, only this time you can do it at will. (Talk about threat display...) But what does this mean for daily life?
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Laskeutua Laskeutua's picture
Illusionist wrote:Greetings,
Illusionist wrote:
Greetings, forums! Long-time lurker, first-time poster here...and a liberal-arts major who grew up on soft sci-fi. (My writing mind [i]insists[/i] FTL is needed, because it [i]refuses[/i] to spend 270 days in transit to Neptune.) Anyway. Endocrine Control. Off its description, it 'allows the character to completely control their appetite and emotions'. Unlike Emotional Dampers, there's no note that it can be turned on and off at will, so presumably it's always on. My question therefore is - [i]what the hell must that be like?[/i] I'm not as well-versed into the mysteries of biology as I am in other fields, sadly. I can imagine the combination of endocrine control and adrenal boost; 'fight time' kicking in, the body clearing for action, only this time you can do it at will. (Talk about threat display...) But what does this mean for daily life?
Think less high-minded for a minute: I mean, imagine being in a female shell and you could consciously control your menstrual cycle into times that are best convenient to you? Imagine being able to just switch off that inconvenient hunger pang because you're late for work and you can't afford the distraction until lunch? Hell, imagine there's a really smoking hot person on public transport - switch off your arousal response. How many times have you wanted [ insert bodily function here ] to just stop bugging you for an hour because you're busy? There's enough day-to-day life annoyances that can form a picture to its use.
CordialUltimate2 CordialUltimate2's picture
Have you ever been just in a
Have you ever been just in a good mood and feeling like you should do something great today? You can do that everyday. Ever been annoyed by a coworker? You can blanket yourself in an ocean of "I don't give a fuck". Hormonal control is a natures way of controling our behaviour so we can better survive in the wild. That mechanism evolved for pretty similiar enviroment for billions of years. It didn't translate well to our city/society enviroment which exist for about 300 years. With endocrinal control you can tweak your misguided instincts. It of course runs the risk of turning you into a rat with elctrode jammed into its brain pleasure center pushing the button until it dies, but what comes without the risk? I feel that the humanity will fracture into self-disciplined and unchained hedonists sometime in this century.
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DivineWrath DivineWrath's picture
I'm pretty sure that basic
I'm pretty sure that basic biomods stops the reproductive cycle. Not many transhumans want to give birth these days. As for overdoing endocrine control, I'm pretty sure your muse can call for help.
CordialUltimate2 CordialUltimate2's picture
DivineWrath wrote:
DivineWrath wrote:
As for overdoing endocrine control, I'm pretty sure your muse can call for help.
Yeah that would qualify for psychosurgery, as that would be biomorph equivalent of bootloop. I see it that if you could hack someones endocrine control you could drive them mad, suicidal, maniacal or manipulate them into deleting their backups. Great for bioplague/basilisk exurgent virus. Or ego hunting. As for everyday life imagine that you can always operate at your peak efficiency, "be in the zone" all the time. You would be a pretty good liar. Potentially you could make yourself fall in love, be cured of hatred (or opposite), by selectively silencing or enhancing emotional responses. Maybe you're corporate drone that sacrificed everything for your career. Your spouse left you. Your children don't remember your face. But you don't care. Maybe you're agoraphobic and for some reason psychosurgery doesn't work. When you feel the panic attack coming you flood your hormonal system and all you get is a slight unease at the wrongness of open space. Maybe you're an actor and you want to make the scene the best you can. Your barely held anger is real. You don't have to fake emotions, you only have to express them.
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ShadowDragon8685 ShadowDragon8685's picture
Illusionist wrote:Greetings,
Illusionist wrote:
Greetings, forums! Long-time lurker, first-time poster here...and a liberal-arts major who grew up on soft sci-fi. (My writing mind [i]insists[/i] FTL is needed, because it [i]refuses[/i] to spend 270 days in transit to Neptune.)
Remember, spending 270 days in transit to Neptune is only a matter of concern if you're somehow playing a long-game where interplanetary logistics are a concern of the players, like if they're all playing Titanian naval planners or something and launching a retake of the Discord gate from the Ultimates. Otherwise, you don't have to physically transit out there, you egocast out and use local resources.
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Illusionist Illusionist's picture
Much thanks for the input,
Much thanks for the input, guys! Think I've a better grasp on it now, though the picture appears ridiculously weird. I think I'll have it (or at least this character's particular aug) be both unconsciously and consciously controllable, in similar manner to breathing - normally unconscious and generally adhering to what the body needs, but with conscious control if the need should arise. Hardly anyone breathes manually throughout the day, after all. ShadowDragon: I do realise egocasting is an option, but for the two particular characters I'm writing, they'd prefer more typical means. One's a ship pilot and is more disposed to physical travel by default; the other's a Lost Generation orphan who refuses to resleeve from his own futura morph. Either way, travel time isn't really going to be a significant factor in this story, and beyond Neptune, nothing's interesting anyway (save for Eris and Markov, what with the pilot also being an argonaut). My mind hasn't had much mucking about in pre-/minimal-FTL settings.
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DivineWrath DivineWrath's picture
My final thoughts, after
My final thoughts, after reading up on some stuff regarding the Endocrine system, I'm left wondering what you can't do. There is even control over growth hormones. What the Endocrine Control augment does might not be vast enough. Unfortunately, the Endocrine system looks to be a too complex topic to read up on in a day. You might need an expert on this topic. If you know a doctor with some free time, maybe ask them a few questions.
Xoden Xoden's picture
On reproduction
DivineWrath wrote:
I'm pretty sure that basic biomods stops the reproductive cycle. Not many transhumans want to give birth these days.
Basic biomods look like they have no user interface, so their 'reproduction setting' is likely 'permanently off' (or 'on' if you wish for some reason). While Endocrine Control allows you to toggle it at will.
DivineWrath DivineWrath's picture
I think that basic biomods
I think that basic biomods has some sort of control over reproduction. There are a number of augments that have some sort of mental control. Sex Switch can be mentally triggered without other augments (it says so in its description). Drug glands\poison glands aught to be something that can be mentally triggered (always on is not always a good thing). Adrenal Boost says it can be controlled at will with Endocrine Control. Other bioware such as claws, prehensile tail, grip pads, chameleon skin, and hibernation have much more noticeable effects on one's body and would require some control to use. Not having control defeats the point of even having them. Its not well declared how these bioware works, but I think its safe to assume that some means of control exists. Maybe there are places that could teach someone how to use these augments. At the very least, a trip to an ego bridge could provide one with the "software patches" needed to get that effect.