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Ghostrider Module and other mental aug questions.

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bRA1N-b0X bRA1N-b0X's picture
Ghostrider Module and other mental aug questions.
Since "Ghostrider Module" is listed under Cyberware in the core book, does that mean whatever ego inside there is considered a digital consciousness, along with all the infolife/morph rules apply to that module? If one had the Neurachem aug, would only the ego riding the biological brain benefit at the time? Could the ego's swap between the Ghostrider and biological brain? If so, could they then swap who is under the effects of a Neurachem boost as long as it's during the duration? Also, having the benefits of a Multi-Tasking cyberware aug apply only to whichever stack is connected to whichever ego? Would a rider also have access to the stack? Having, in addition or standalone, Multiple Personality bioware aug gain Multi-Tasking simultaneous with the co-habitating ego? Add all those together, what could and could not be possible with all that brain activity?
bRA1N-b0X bRA1N-b0X's picture
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bRA1N-b0X wrote:
Could the ego's swap between the Ghostrider and biological brain? If so, could they then swap who is under the effects of a Neurachem boost as long as it's during the duration?
I mean physically swap ego and inhabit the other's "space?"
Tyrnis Tyrnis's picture
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They couldn't physically swap without other specialized equipment, no -- they'd still need an ego bridge, which is described as being about the size of a bread box. This would likely be more practical in a synthmorph, both since ego transfer takes less time and since something the size of a breadbox could be more easily built into a synthetic body. I'm not sure if you can transfer an ego in at the same time you're transferring one out or not. I can only recall instances of single transfer being mentioned, which at worst would mean you'd need a second ghostrider module. You'd also need a morph equipped with multiple cortical stacks.
bRA1N-b0X bRA1N-b0X's picture
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The thing is, I believe the Multiple Personality aug puts both egos on the same cortical stack, but the description says that to restore the backups require two morphs or a single with the same aug as the original. I can see an ad hoc sort of rule to put the kabosh on stacking actions, and the aug might not be able to activate for more than one ego at a time, regardless of physical hardware, making this more of a software issue, unless there were some means to add two ports onto the aug or buying two. The Ghost Rider aug in standard form allows the use of the actual morph for the rider only under the host's permission, while adding a Puppet Sock into the deal reverses that permission, in a way. Multiple Personalities occupying the biological brain can be an ego contest, I think. I am not sure if there's a priority process that's observed, and I think it's more of whomever's got the driver's wheel at the time has to willingly relinquish control or else enter a contest for control. The roles would be reversed later, if they did switch at some time. A mind and morph tricked out with any or all of these augs has to develop some sort of mental government to keep that all straight, I bet. I can't imagine the Multi-Tasking aug would make that any easier with the use of forks (temporary as they may be). So, only one ego is driving the morph, while any of the others are relegated to mesh and other mental functions, which might not be a big deal in a physical encounter, but maybe messy in any other circumstance. Three characters could be made sharing a single morph. (And is where this whole line of questioning comes from, of course.)
bRA1N-b0X bRA1N-b0X's picture
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Setting aside any serious tone, something wonderfully absurd occurred to me. What if one of the egos present in that consortium within a single morph was a therapist? Would he be treating his own malady? Even though there's a difference between the aug and the MPD (multiple personality disorder), it would be fun to find out one of those other voices in there was a shared delusion.
Xagroth Xagroth's picture
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I believe the practice of self-treatment mental illnesses is really, really discouraged (after all, if you are crazy, you will think that your crazy ideas and perceptions are perfectly normal!). As for the moving two egos at the same time, I think it might get done the same way infomorphs "travel" through the local mesh: they copy themselves to the next node, then delete the copy "left behind". So a cyberbrain and a ghostrider module would work like this: first, the ego "leaves" the cyberbrain, then copies itself in the ghostrider. If there was already an ego there and they wanted to swap places, then they would need somewhere else to reside for a moment. An extra pair of ectos is quite cheap and sufficient for that purpose. However, the ghostrider module is usually intended to carry an additional helping ego (be it a fork, muse, or original). A fun side effect of Eclipse Phase is that you can run a game with a variable number of players and just one PC...