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Degenesis

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Ravn Ravn's picture
Degenesis
Just thought to ask if there are any plans of any translations of the other official material for Degenesis? Or if the Core Book is it, so to speak. Cheers!
Sushi-Poot Sushi-Poot's picture
Degenesis
Yeah. What he said.
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kylleran kylleran's picture
Degenesis
Unfortunately Degenesis was not a property we owned and developed ourselves, but was licensed from Sigh Press. Our license recently ended and SP has decided to go in another direction so we will no longer be producing any material for Degenesis. However, it is possible that Degenesis may still be around with another English language publisher, just not us.

Brian Cross
Posthuman Studios

GreyBrother GreyBrother's picture
As somebody who followed the
As somebody who followed the german community and surroundings... it probably won't. Degenesis has been dead for a while. It was said that there will be a rules overhaul which didn't come. Also, no news was given on that matter for years now.
Sushi-Poot Sushi-Poot's picture
Degenesis
If Sigh Press decided to go in a different direction, does that mean that they aren't willing to renew Posthuman's License? Did they see that there was money to be made off an English translated version and have decided to make that money all by themselves. It is there property. But it seems like a rotten thing to do, to get Posthuman to act as the guinea pig for the English version. That's business though. I say we bombard the Sigh Press forums with protest! - This is considering that my speculation is correct. Posthuman might have not had interest in pursuing Degenesis any further. Who know? Not I. Alas, I must announce to my players that we will not have any fun new expansion/supplemental material in the foreseeable future. And I will gently cry myself to sleep.
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GreyBrother GreyBrother's picture
Don't bother with being sad.
Don't bother with being sad. German players already resigned. You can always learn german and use those supplements that are already available there. Still... its disappointing to hear nothing about that game for so long... *sigh*
GreyBrother GreyBrother's picture
So... http://www.degenesis
So... http://www.degenesis.com/ There's some news regarding DeGenesis. They will release a "Rebirth" edition this month, in german. You can get it for 99€ (thats about 130$) at the cheapest, two books with 700 pages. Thankfully, their page is in english, so you can look up all the changes and features yourself. But beware, the book itself IS definitly german. Here's info about an english version: http://www.sixmorevodka.com/degenesis/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9 So... i am a bit disgusted by the whole conduct of the guys for keeping it behind so long and now coming out with an overpriced juggernaut of a rulebook and a changelist that reads like they wanted to align it with DnD. Books not out yet, though. So final verdict is pending.
Lilith Lilith's picture
Say what you will...
...but the artwork is pretty fan-fuckin-tastic if you ask me. Also there's apparently an English translation in the works, according to the forums.
GreyBrother GreyBrother's picture
Well, artwork doesn't make a
Well, artwork doesn't make a good RPG, as i say. As i've said, i don't have the book (no one except the devs has) and until then, i can only judge what i see.
Lilith Lilith's picture
Art doesn't make the book
But presentation goes a long way to showing the care invested in the creation. And honestly, I was never a big fan of the Katharsys system in its original creation, so I welcome an overhaul. I'm not saying the book's going to be pure gold when it comes out or anything, but I'm being cautiously optimistic towards it for the time being.
GreyBrother GreyBrother's picture
Yeah, maybe i'm a bit of a
Yeah, maybe i'm a bit of a burned fan. What it says on this page http://sixmorevodka.com/degenesis/13-things-that-changed/ just makes me go "what the hell are they thinking". Mind you, i seriously encourage anyone to make their own opinion and don't listen to me scrub :D
MAD Crab MAD Crab's picture
Fair enough, and I've seen
Fair enough, and I've seen some pretty crap RPGs. But Lilith is right, they've got some awesome art going on there. It would be a tragedy if it were shackled to a bad rule set.
AdamJury AdamJury's picture
Bear in mind that if you look
Bear in mind that if you look at other large published RPGs in the last year or so, the price for a core book is often $60, so $130 for two books with a slipcase ... I think that's in the ballpark of what you pay for a premium/niche game these days.
GreyBrother GreyBrother's picture
While true, Adam, i just
While true, Adam, i just think its not justified to demand such a thing for players to "start" a new game. But thats Opinionland and everyone can decide for himself.
Lilith Lilith's picture
Eh...
I blew over $100 on the starter box for WFRP 3e, so yeah, I don't balk at prices like that. I suppose it's because I got into RPGs (relatively) recently, when releasing box sets like that was becoming the norm, so it doesn't bug me at all. Plus, you know, I'm terrible with money.
ORCACommander ORCACommander's picture
well to be fair the way most
well to be fair the way most people start new systems in established groups is one person finds it says oh that is interesting then presents that book they just bought to the rest of the group. at least they are making progress on their overhaul unlike Spycraft 3 :P
Lilith Lilith's picture
Yup.
ORCACommander wrote:
well to be fair the way most people start new systems in established groups is one person finds it says oh that is interesting then presents that book they just bought to the rest of the group.
Yeah, that's pretty much how I've done it with my IRL players.
Kamen Kamen's picture
KatharSys update
Looks like they posted an overview of the new KatharSys. http://sixmorevodka.com/degenesis/katharsys-the-gaming-system-2/
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Lilith Lilith's picture
Yeah
I read that at work today. It [i]sounds[/i] good, on paper at least, though I'd have to get hands-on with the details to see how it plays out at the table. Also fuck you and your shit-eating grin there, [i]Kamen[/i]. I KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
GreyBrother GreyBrother's picture
Lilith wrote:Also fuck you
Lilith wrote:
Also fuck you and your shit-eating grin there, [i]Kamen[/i]. I KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
I laughed so hard at that because it came out of nowhere. It sounds solid. Nothing special, as they write. I'm a bit "meh" about the Potentials, since it all sounds so... Game-ish. I love such stuffs in DnD and games that are focusing on leveling and gear and such, but DeGenesis always struck me as a narrative game. Either they changed that or my impression of Degenesis was just plain wrong.
kindalas kindalas's picture
Kamen wrote:Looks like they
Kamen wrote:
Looks like they posted an overview of the new KatharSys. http://sixmorevodka.com/degenesis/katharsys-the-gaming-system-2/
That feels a lot like the White Wolf and Shadowrun 4 systems. Not a bad thing as I've never used my copy of the hardcover I bought because the system seemed so failure heavy.
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GreyBrother GreyBrother's picture
I remember fondly, my
I remember fondly, my Chronicler, who, despite the book telling me that he was certainly competent at it, not being able to identify an artifact from the old times.