The "Custom-Grown or -Designed Morphs" sidebar (EP page 278) says that it takes 1.5-2 years to clone a biomorph and 6 months to 1 year to clone a pod in a healing vat.

Cloning a biomorph is just making a biomorph to exact specifications. So it would take ~3 years to force-grow it in a body bank the same as any other biomorph. (Half that for a pod, not that anybody grew up in a pod.) The credit/CP cost would be basically the same as any other morph with those stats and augs.

Zarpaulus wrote:

Doubt it, mass-produced is always less expensive than custom. Economies of scale you know.

In this case not much changes between one normal Menton or Splicer and the mass produced one. When you grow it it needs the same tank, nutrients and power as any other morph. So I guess the body farm would require a small customisation fee and that's all.

Zarpaulus wrote:

CordialUltimate2 wrote:

Zarpaulus wrote:

Doubt it, mass-produced is always less expensive than custom. Economies of scale you know.

In this case not much changes between one normal Menton or Splicer and the mass produced one. When you grow it it needs the same tank, nutrients and power as any other morph. So I guess the body farm would require a small customisation fee and that's all.

You really think there's that little price difference between buying an existing morph off the shelf and paying a body farm to spend two years specially growing something for you?

I do. In Eclipse Phase, economies of scale are basically wonky, since most manufacturing is still minifacturing. They were going to be growing something there anyway, the real price-bitch is cooking up the genetics for the custom morph that hyperelites and wannabes demand to have. If you already [i]have[/i] the genetics, and own them free and clear - for example, them being the genetics to the morph you were born in; assuming you either own those genetics or at least that nobody can prove you [i]don't[/i] (such as if it was made by a strictly Earthside corp that was lost in the Fall with no claimaints to its IP to challenge you) - then they can just put those in the tank and start growing. The moneyspinner is the design work, and that doesn't go to the body farms, it goes to the geneticists. The body farm will make out like a bandit on this deal, and so will you.

There is really no difference between an "off the rack" splicer and a "custom genetics" splicer on the open market. At that level, they are both splicers. The custom one will command a premium ONLY to the specialized buyer. By the same token, unless the custom one has defects, it is just as valuable as any other morph of the same type. I imagine that morphs are pretty much all built to order by someone. That may be the hab's biodiversity policies, a marketing department, the mad scientist that designs all the morphs for fun, or whoever won the "morph upgrade lottery".

Zarpaulus][quote=kigmatzomat wrote:

Except that it explicitly states that most morphs are mass-produced. Rimward has a section on one of Titan's microcorps that produces sleeves for their "every mind a body" program and it says nearly all their Hazers are variations of the same basic template with minor random mutations for variety.

I'd say that means "generic looks that you need to tweak with a cosmetic surgeon, or look like a sibling to all other morphs of the line", with "baseline enhancements". Look at it this way. On EP, cloning and making biomorphs is like running a printer nowadays. You can print the same page over and over and the only costs are the consumables (paper, ink and electricity in this example), and the opportunity cost of not being able to use the printer for other works. The "every mind a body" program would be the same as printing the exact same ten pages (for example, with each unique biomorph being one page) with an algorithm that makes the first and last line of each page to be unique... kinda like printing money, if you prefer: unique serial number, several denominations, but in the end little difference between bills of the same value. A custom morph can be like using a template and filling the gaps by demand, or writing it from scratch. However, for the printer it takes the same effort to produce ten copies of the same page than it takes to print 10 different pages. Anyway, there are two personalization ways for morphs. First is custom genetics the oligarchs are so fond of (which also gives bonuses to the resleeving rolls), where you don't care about the augments or the printing cost... because you own the printing business, frankly. The second is to make a morph of whatever genetic code with "implants", where you just pick whatever biomorph of that model you have around and tweak, implanting it with the required stuff via surgical/nano operation, in which case you already have the parts that take years to grow (essentially, the brain and the nervous system). Worst case scenario, you take those parts from a morph and install them into a custom-grow body, essentially making a brain transplant; I doubt that will take more than a few weeks, and you can grow another brain for the other body, or recycle it.