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CordialUltimate2 CordialUltimate2's picture
Firewall FOOBAR cache
If its against the rules, moderators can delete this post. Bump to to another thread. http://eclipsephase.com/asking-help-firewall-fuubar-cache TL;DR What would you put in a small cache for a really bad case x-risk scenario on a global scale. Possibly involving a lot of TITAN shit. Space: 1 small room. Max item dimensions - possible to smuggle on one person.
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puke puke's picture
taking a page from Delta Green?
CordialUltimate2 CordialUltimate2's picture
Yes, like a green box, but it
Yes, like a green box, but it's a green box for an apocalypse. X-] So the question should be rather "What gear would you want to have with you when fighting exurgents and/or TITAN remnants? " EDIT: Reading through the links now. It is inspirational.
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puke puke's picture
simpler in the future...
general purpose fabricator, blueprint library, feedstock, power supply. maybe a qbit reservoir to talk to your handlers, maybe some AM in a form that wont catastrophically degrade (does such a form exist in EP?)
CordialUltimate2 CordialUltimate2's picture
puke wrote:maybe some AM in a
puke wrote:
maybe some AM in a form that wont catastrophically degrade
It does not exist. It is the whole trick with antimatter as explosive material, it annihilates. It can be kept, as long as there is power, with magnetic containment.
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puke puke's picture
could in principal
well, the idea would be something that leaks slowly. Current AM storage systems store a handful of atoms and degrade over seconds (i think were up to seconds, now). The idea would be similar, not just failure and BOOM, but slow trickle down. We don't actually make enough now to go "boom", but you get the idea. or better yet, something metastable that is actually molecularity bonded inside some larger molecule... Schlock Mercenary posits a storage system inside carbon fullerines, for example. I think EP always talks about magnetic containment, so maybe they're not there yet. But I suspect they must have failsafes and controlled bleed-off mechanisms.
CordialUltimate2 CordialUltimate2's picture
As far as I understand the
As far as I understand the magnetic containment in EP is a mature technology without bleedoff and no loss of antimatter. It is a natural consequence of mature fusion technology which requires mastery of magnetic containment to control the fusion process. EDIT: Metastable matter/antimatter crystalline lattices seem POSSIBLE to maintain. As long as they are kept at 0 K and under NO stress at all. But allow one atom and antiatom combine, and it would probably lead to a chain reaction that annihilates the whole structure. Remember annihilation energy is orders of magnitude higher than any other process in nature, maybe except compression of matter into neutronium. That doesn't change that nobody has any idea how would you possibly interlace 2 types of matter without contacting them at any point.
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ShadowDragon8685 ShadowDragon8685's picture
That's why I have fullerened
That's why I have fullerened antimatter as being TITAN-level tech in EP. That's what I decided the weapon was in Mind the WMD - a Titan tactical antimatter bomb; anti-uranium elements suspended in carbon-60 buckyballs. Just a gram of antimatter in a C[sub]60[/sub] lattice that weighed [b]way more[/b] than a few grams, with a big old ferromagnetic core and shell to allow for mass driver launch. It was, all in all, approximately the size of a 40mm grenade, and with a passive detonation system not unlike one, meaning that it would have been a relatively trivial Hardware: Armorer feat to design and fabricate a delivery mechanism comparable to the one the original warbot had. It was not a city-buster, but it would definitely have destroyed any smaller hab, or taken a huge chunk [i]out[/i] of a city. Like good little Sentinels, though, my players turned it over to Firewall instead of, say, using it to take down the Mt. Olympus Space Elevator or something.
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SquireNed SquireNed's picture
The best "end-of-the-world"
The best "end-of-the-world" cache is a very large box with a single bullet inside. Don't include a gun.
MrWigggles MrWigggles's picture
Well yea, guns are dangerous.
Well yea, guns are dangerous.
CordialUltimate2 CordialUltimate2's picture
SquireNed wrote:The best "end
SquireNed wrote:
The best "end-of-the-world" cache is a very large box with a single bullet inside. Don't include a gun.
I fail to get the reference. Fullerenes infused with antimatter would have only one advantage over magnetic containment. No constant power requirement. Otherwise it is impractical due to instability. Metastable material doesn't mean that that it is "stable" like regular old water in say 293 K. It means that it won't explode by itself. But just shine some light on it, or gods forbid, x-rays (maybe even a neutrino) and the single atom in a lattice will gain enough energy to be quantum tunneled into antiatom and boom. You have E=mc^2 of energy in a singular point of your lattice. Unless the whole structure had infinite energy conductivity you would get a chain reaction. Overall it is a bad idea to hold antimatter in close proximity with regular matter. But its OFFTOPIC. Please give me some homebrew useful antiTITAN, antiExsurgent tech. Except antimatter of course. That's a given.
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Kojak Kojak's picture
Plasma rifles, plasmaburst
Plasma rifles, plasmaburst grenades and seeker rifles with Accushot EMP rounds; heavy combat armor with Faraday mods, Fireproofing and built-in Guardian swarm hives; digital libraries storing both useful blueprints and copies of military-grade software, especially firewalls; antimatter grenades. That's what immediately jumps to mind, anyway.
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CordialUltimate2 CordialUltimate2's picture
Already on the list :-)
Already on the list :-)
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puke puke's picture
do not look in this box
how about some mimetic hazards? strains of the exurgant virus that can incapacitate a seed AI, or basilisk hacks in a box? the metaphorical gorgon's head, sealed and ready to use. Just like Delta Green or The Laundry: some of the tools of the enemy, ready to use against it. Just pull the ripcord on this pouch, and a dormant TITAN nanoswarm gets fed some bootstrapping power and it begins turning the entire hab and/or planetoid into grey goo. A warship can come by later and nuke the gooball, so its not really an existential threat -- just a last-ditch cleanup option.
CordialUltimate2 CordialUltimate2's picture
hmm We are playing on the
hmm We are playing on the Mars surface. So anything like you described is unacceptable. Our GM already told me to include 2 antimatter grenades and 2 scourer?scorcher rings. So its all "artifacts" we can get. Nonetheless the tactic you just described is pretty dubious. What horror would be bad enough to justify releasing this TITAN shit? It's better to bomb the hab already.
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you are bombing the hab
but if you cant pack enough bombs to kill the hab, you kill it with something more portable. Just make sure you kill it before it broadcasts out and spreads a more insidious infection. Better to turn an AI into a gibbering mad monstrosity that kills random things for inscrutable reasons, then to let it become an all knowing all calculating god that wants to unfold reality into new dimensions. Better to turn Mars into a rippling bubble of nanite goo, than to have every electronic component in the solar system (including everyone's mesh inserts) join some mad evolving hive-mind. This is a setting of trans-human horror. There are PLENTY of reasons to destroy a planet.
SquireNed SquireNed's picture
Destroying a planet is also
Destroying a planet is also above anyone on that planet's pay grade.
CordialUltimate2 CordialUltimate2's picture
Yep. Mars will definietly be
Yep. Mars will definietly be better of as a bubble of grey goo. Especially intelligent TITAN goo. Congratulations!!! You win 1 Firewall Agent of the Year Award.
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