Going through the definition of AGI under eclipse phase is basically any conscience obtained through virtual means(therefore excluding artificial biological minds), and an infomorph is a transhuman conscience in virtual state.
The definitions seems pretty solid, did they program you? AGI, did they scan your brain and run you through a server? Infomorph, the problem es that, in the end, it depends on the actual interpretation and views of both things.
So, for any transhuman we have the case that for some, there is no factual difference between an AGI and a infomorph, in the sense that they're undistinguishable except some baseline points that are based around real transhuman anyway, that could be a pro-mercurial position.
But to a jovian, could he find a difference? Of course he can accept both definitions, but, jovians accept that a conscience cannot be copied into a virtual state and still be considered human(and to some extenet this is true, it would be considered transhuman) so a conscience, a true person, shouldn't be able to run in any processor abd be considered a person or even alive, but thise comes from the idea that you can't copy all the human condition.
Therefore, is there a difference between an AGI and a "virtual person" if we don't consider any of those live humans? In fact, to a jovian, both of them are just programs running in a computer, they're code claiming to be in equal condition to humanity but clearly they're not equal nor persons. Both are mere processors and the only real difference is the origin, therefore, an AGI could be simply a totally artificial infomorph, and an infomorph could simply considered an AGI with the baseline that came from the brain of a former human.
In conclusion, an infomorph and AGI are the same thng, from different origins.
Now, if this is true, it means that any transhuman is a form of artificial intellience that is potentially looking foward to improve himself into seed AGI status, while any biological human is not, so now AGIs and informorphs should logically be considered equally dangerous in the republic, the only way I see to overcome this, is political pragmatism; although informorphs are just a type of AGIs they're the most common form of travel in the solar system the most usual state for the majority of the population and giving them that statous would severe the jovian republic relationship with the rest of the factions and limit their possible oportunities with bioconservative habitats that were still forced into infomorph state or have to work with infomorphs.
This aproach is comepletly hypocritical, but I guess thats somehow unavoidable if you use a political solution.
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Do jovians believe infomorphs are a type of AGIs?
Sun, 2016-08-07 17:47
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Do jovians believe infomorphs are a type of AGIs?
Mon, 2016-08-08 01:23
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Well according to the
Well according to the Transhuman player's guide there are very real differences between an AGI and a transhuman informorph. For one, brainprint scans will immediately reveal whether an ego is human, uplift or AGI. It's also mentioned that, unless specifically raised to be sociable towards humans, AGI mannerisms tend to stick out like a sore thumb. Therefore, while your observations are certainly not invalid, I'm not sure a lot of people in the setting consider them to be the same thing. AGI refers to a specific type of infolife, not digital intelligences in general
In the Republic, cortical stacks, backups, and resleeving are all legal, so I'd imagine that the Republic officially considers human egos to still be, well, human, even if there are people in the Republic that disagree with this, arguing that the moment you first resleeved, you died, and a copy has taken your place.
As for considering them to be AGIs? I'm sure some Jovians believe that, but I don't think everyone does, including the government, since again, they can tell whether an ego is human or not.
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Mon, 2016-08-08 11:04
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Going off of Firewall
Going off of Firewall infomorphs are referred to as Archived Intelligences, which seem to be a separate classification from AI (The Jovian Intelligence agencies will use Archived intelligence, but typically avoids AI).
I suspect the unnatural origins of AI, and the fact that the Jovians probably know more about the TITANs than anyone else are drivers here.
Mon, 2016-08-08 22:53
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Legally, they're in the same
Legally, they're in the same category as AGIs for the practical reason that software minds are more easily corrupted than meat brains.
What an individual Jovian believes depends on how much propaganda they buy into.
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Tue, 2016-08-09 08:59
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Quote:Therefore, is there a
https://eclipse-phase.wikispaces.com/Jovian+Republic
So there do seem to be separate legal categories:
Visiting infomorphs - heavily restricted.
Other infomorphs - even more restricted.
AGI - banned.
It's a good question. I imagine the Reformist faction of Jovians would be the most likely to see infomorphs and AGIs as distinct categories. Well, them and Jovian AI specialists. Also, with psychosurgery, merging, and other mind-altering techniques, it is surely possible that it may no longer be clear whether a given ego started as an infomorph or an AGI.
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