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Jamming and Death

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Cripple X Cripple X's picture
Jamming and Death
Is it possible for a Transhuman mind/infomorph to survive in a morph/shell they are jamming in the event of their original morph's death? On 197 of EP Core it says that if a shell dies, the user is dumped back to the original morph. Is the opposite also true? Could a fork continue to operate that shell after the death of the originating morph or would the shell turn into a derelict? My suspicion is that the latter is the case, but I have a character idea that involves the former and I was wondering if it would be at all plausible, if incredibly traumatic for the character.
ORCACommander ORCACommander's picture
I think the shell goes
I think the shell goes derelict since its all instruction coming from the origination point. after execution there is nothing stored locally.
Cripple X Cripple X's picture
Figured as much. Thanks.
Figured as much. Thanks.
uwtartarus uwtartarus's picture
Yeah, you can jam bots and
Yeah, you can jam bots and drones that lack the cyberbrain to hold an ego, but I bet if you kill an operator mid-jam, it would leave a gamma (delta?) fork, the defective 'ghosty' ego-trace. Interesting plot stuff arises from this.
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ShadowDragon8685 ShadowDragon8685's picture
I would say no. Jamming doesn
I would say no. Jamming doesn't transfer any of you to the drone, it's VR teleoperation, the way Riggers remotely (or directly) control vehicles or drones in Shadowrun, and the negative effects of directly jamming a drone that's destroyed in EP are analogous to dumpshock.
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Pyrite Pyrite's picture
uwtartarus wrote:Yeah, you
uwtartarus wrote:
Yeah, you can jam bots and drones that lack the cyberbrain to hold an ego, but I bet if you kill an operator mid-jam, it would leave a gamma (delta?) fork, the defective 'ghosty' ego-trace. Interesting plot stuff arises from this.
I agree that this should be sometimes possible, and is closest you get to the first suggestion of the OP.
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Aurell1an Aurell1an's picture
To re-state what's been said
To re-state what's been said above in a way that helps me fit the concept into my limited headspace: jamming is like using a computer via remote desktop: not one byte of that computer's memory is on YOUR computer, it just looks like it is. Now imagine that that remote computer isn't controlled through a screen, mouse, and keyboard, but a complex (by 2015 standards) array of sensors that effectively comprise something like a transhuman sensorium.
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FrankManic FrankManic's picture
uwtartarus wrote:Interesting
uwtartarus wrote:
Interesting plot stuff arises from this.
Scary plot stuff. A few echoes of a human mind replaying the last commands sent to it from the real thing. I'd definitely let players try to talk to whatever vapor was left in a drone after the operate died.
What is boils down to is that "Killer Robots exterminate humanity and escape to the stars" is one of the *good futures*.