My contributions: p. 47 - Hulder: "He’d done some custom biosculpt on it and had a [b]who[/b] pack of swarm cats following him around. Said he was a[b]n[/b] ego hunter for his swarm and was tracking down a bounty head." - The word "who" should be deleted; the "a" before "ego hunter" should be an "an". p. 53 - Kite: "Ultra kites are larger, humanoid-sized [b]fighting[/b] kites." - The word "fighting" should be deleted. p. 126 SKULKER MORPH, followed by some weird symbols; it should probably read "see page 100".

The Reaper morph has a T-Ray Emitter (MRG, p. 78 / EP., p.144). It does not have Enhanced Vision. The description of the T-Ray Emitter (EP., p. 306) appears to indicate that Enhanced Vision is necessary to effectively make use of the emitter. Accordingly, was Enhanced Vision inadvertently left-off the description of the Reaper, or can the T-Ray Emitter be used without Enhanced Vision?

kindalas wrote:

The T Ray emitter is useless without enhanced vision. I think you've discovered a five year old oversight. I wonder if that will get you a prize. Kindalas

Do I win a cyber-enhanced neo-pony? :)

ORCACommander wrote:

hmm i woulda lumped it in with the 360 degree augment

Why? The 360° Vision enhancement only expands a morph's field of vision, not what it is actually able to discern. I thought that I might just have read the T-Ray Emitter entry incorrectly, and that it provided "T-Ray Vision" even without Enhanced Vision.

ORCACommander wrote:

I took it as the robotic equivalent of enhanced vision. It is sometimes a personal flaw in that if i do not see something explicit i look for something implicent. it bites me on the ass with one of my gm's because he needs everything told to him explicitly. frigin AoO

You shouldn't take Attacks of Opportunity on your GM. It's not nice. :) Anyway... Hrm. Some things did strike me about the MRG - Besides the [i]blatant[/i] copying of the Shadowrun 4e [i]Gun Heaven[/i] format... Which I don't mind a bit, as it's a great "gear porn splatbook" format. [s]Shadowtalk[/s]Eyechat is great! (Also gave more canon voice for Violet Perdido, who's become a recurring NPC/ally of my PCs. So much so that they relocated her from Mars to their Scum Swarm when they left. :) ) Let me flip through the book again and see what I can see... One thing that does annoy me is that the entries don't cite chapter and verse for where they came from. When I'm reading the entry for the Ariel morph, for instance, I would very much like to know which book it came out of, in case it had any supplementary material re: Titanian wilderness. Oh, yes. For some reason, the icon which was chosen for "Pods" depicts a Neotenic, which is a [i]straight-up biomorph.[/i] Epic fail there, lads. Wouldn't the face of an obvious pod, like say, the Basic Pod, Digger, Security Pod, Vacuum Pod, have been better? I would've used the Security Pod's face, personally. [b]Page 11:[/b] Minor nitpick, here, but the art for the Biocore? That's a [i]terrible[/i] design, that gray matter is going to get [i]splattered[/i] across the inside of its helmet-tank any time that morph undergoes a sudden acceleration, like say, being thrown to the deck, smashed in the helmet with a hammer, or so forth. Also, with the helmet [i]not[/i] completely full of liquid, you're in deep shit in micrograv since I presume the liquid medium is keeping the brain alive, and in gravity it's vulnerable to the water jackhammer effect. Cool concepts don't excuse derptastic design. [b]Page 19:[/b] the "This morph is this size" comparison to the Ruster? There's a transparancy haze around the morph's top for some inexplicable reason. Also, the [s]Shadowtalk[/s]Eyechat from Tio Silencio notes that Jovians are copying the designs. It would probably have been a good idea to mention that they're copying them for use as robot drones rather than as morphs to sleeve in, because Jovians. And lastly... It's kind of hard to tell which end of the morph we're looking at. Is that a set of visual sensors heading forward, with the cowling of high-speed air intakes all around the morph behind it? Or is that the engine? [b]Page 20:[/b] The Courier's extensive sensor [i]suit[/i]? I think you meant suite. :) Also, it would be nice if you'd given us some pretty important things like the mass of the Courier with a full fuel tank, the specific impulse of the rocket engine it's using, and its total "dry" dV. "One and a half hour's operation at 0.25g" is pretty vague when you're trying to work out what kind of maneuvers a thing like this could do and your name is not Scott Manley. [b]Page 22:[/b] The art [i]clearly[/i] depicts an anthropomorphzed Critter, and a non-anthromorph Critter. Neither of these Critters is reflected in the stats, as the anthromorph version should lack the "Lacks Manipulators" trait (it very clearly has hands with opposable thumbs,) and the quadruped penalty (as it is a biped) in microgravity, while the monkey-wolf version should have the Small Size bonus because it's definitely smaller than a Neotenic and in the range of a Scurier. Also, they all appear to lack Social Stigma (Pod,) and should probably have an additional Social Stigma (Furry) trait to boot. Bad form, guys. I'll have to stat these out myself, won't I? [b]Page 28:[/b] This is a problem in the original printing, but the Faust is [i]ridiculously[/i] expensive for what it gets you, both in terms of CP and credits, but even moreso the credits. [b]Page 30:[/b] The Fighting Kite, as depicted, has two weapon mounts, but the stats only give it one. That ought to be fixed, or you need to make rules for fire-linked weapons. [b]Page 47:[/b] In the [s]Shadowtalk[/s]Eyechat (no, it's not going to get old pointing that out,) Nevermore mentions that he saw a Scum ego-hunter sleeved in a Hulder on Extropia. That seems to be very unlikely, as a Hulder would be a terrible on Extropia, getting one to Extropia would take a lot of doing, and I thought Scum took a very dim view of ego hunting. Not really a mistake, as Nevermore could be spreading pure lies there. Just struck me as odd. [b]Page 55:[/b] In the [s]Shadowtalk[/s]Eyechat, Violet Perdido voices the opinion that a Martian Alpiner is preferable to a Ruster. This is a [i]very[/i] arguable point, as Alpiners actually have fewer aptitude choices, do not feature Enhanced Respiration, and their temperature tolerance is geared exclusively for cold, as opposed to generally. On the other hand, they do feature some nice augs, but they come with two mandatory disadvantages. There's very little to make them the stand-out, no-duh better choice... And per the gear rules, they have the same credit cost unless the GM chooses to apply some modifiers. [b]Page 57:[/b] This is a problem with the mimic's stat block: it probably should [i]not[/i] have the Social Stigma (Clanking Masses) trait. This is a [i]highly-specialized infiltration morph[/i], not something destitute infugees straight out of their "We just bought you out of cold storage" will be sleeved into, nor is it something you're going to sleeve an indenture into. (Go ahead, sleeve the person who's just signed their life away into the stealth-geared, shapeshifting infiltration morph the size of a breadbox. I dare you to ponder the fact that something which is exceptionally good at infiltration and evasion is just as good at exfiltration and evasion.) [b]Page 63:[/b] The [s]Shadowtalk[/s]Eyechat mentions that there are differences in the neo-bonobos, neo-chims and neo-orangutans, and these should probably be elucidated in the stats. The Neo-Orangutan on page 174 is clearly quite a bit bulkier and closer to the neo-gorilla body-plan than to the standard neo-hom. Additionally, there's several stated differences between them, that the stats don't reflect (Neo-Bonobos being [i]very[/i] hormonally supercharged.) I would suggest that, at the very least, variant call-outs are called for here, clearly differentiating the uplift types, as well as the "standard" Neo-Hominid, which would represent the very genericized version that would be more akin to a very distant ancestor of transhumanity than an uplifted modern-day chimpanzee. (I also think there was some overlooked design space in making neo-chimps and neo-bonobos small-sized brachiators, close to their wild ancestors, like the hypergibbon body plan.) I'll make some variant call-outs. [b]Page 69:[/b] Seriously, being rammed by a 170+ ton object moving 50 Km/h is your idea of 2d10 DV? This is the kind of impact that could shatter wooden-hulled oceangoing vessels of significant size, and can still smash smaller metal-hulled ships today, and it's only 2d10, without any AP at all? The DV on melee attacks needs a buff all around, but especially when you're getting into the "huge morph" territory. (For reference, a stock Novacrab has a 50/50 shot of [i]completely ignoring[/i] that impact, when that's the kind of hit that out to turn a novacrab into crab paste.) Also, I think they're probably underpriced, credit-wise given just how [i]freaking massive[/i] they are. [b]Page 86:[/b] Another Synth that probably shouldn't have the Clanking Masses trait is the Savant. There's very little that says "Oppressed, repressed underclass" in the synthetic version of the Menton. [b]Page 88:[/b] The [s]Shadowtalk[/s]Eyechat implies that you can find Security Pods lingering in old habitats. But these aren't synthetic-masked synths, but pods; they have actual organic organs in them. Much hay is made of Pods' impermanence and high maintenance needs, so it would seem unlikely that a pod which was reprogrammed to commit warcrimes would still be hanging around a decade after the fact. [b]Page 89:[/b] I'd honestly have given the base Selkie the Uncanny Valley trait. Also, it looks more like a pod than a biomorph, although that [i]might[/i] be because it's wearing a smart suit, too. Either way, you should have given us the variant call-out on that mermaid version, but I guess that's another job for moi, eh? [b]Page 96:[/b] Not really a problem, but [i]jaysus[/i] that's a face only Optimus Prime could call brother. And only Bayverse Optimus, to boot! [b]Page 97:[/b] Awh, you didn't include the picture of the Masked Steel! :( Masked Steel Morph: For recreating eveybody's favorite scenes from [i]Battlestar Galactica[/i]. (Light-up, orgasm-triggered subdermal spine-indicators are a mere Trivial augmentation!) [b]Page 103:[/b] In the [s]Shadowtalk[/s]Eyechat, hay is made of the great variety of the synth models out in the ‘verse, including versions for neo-homs and neanderthals, but the only one on display is the generic one. Another job for me, I suppose. *sigh*

branford wrote:

Omae, errr . . ., ShadowDragon, the icon used for the pods is the same graphic shown in the pod section of the core book (p. 142), not a neotenic, and I believe represents a pleasure pod morph. I do admit, however, that she does look a little too young for good taste and discretion, but hey, it's the future, her (or his) ego could be of legal age, and nobody (except Jovians) likes a prude. :)

I am [i]quite[/i] sure that's a neotenic. Also remember that often the pictures of morphs in the main books won't be on the same page as the morph itself - look up the Hazer in Rimward, he's standing next to the Fenrir's stat block, and his own stats aren't even on the same page.

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I also believe that the very high cost of the Faust morph is due to the fact that it is very rare, potentially illegal in many habitats (Psi Chameleon and Psi Defense and can fool scans), and includes advantages that hide an exurgent vector (Psi).

Aye, but that's not the same thing. The cost is, and should be, the value of the morph to create. Additional modifiers can, and probably should, be slapped on a morph depending on how hard it is to get hold of, but that's [i]not the same thing.[/i] That's up to the GM's arbitration.

ShadowDragon8685 wrote:

branford wrote:

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I also believe that the very high cost of the Faust morph is due to the fact that it is very rare, potentially illegal in many habitats (Psi Chameleon and Psi Defense and can fool scans), and includes advantages that hide an exurgent vector (Psi).

Aye, but that's not the same thing. The cost is, and should be, the value of the morph to create. Additional modifiers can, and probably should, be slapped on a morph depending on how hard it is to get hold of, but that's [i]not the same thing.[/i] That's up to the GM's arbitration.

Ah, child, you forget that there is a power far, far greater than GM discretion. [color=lime]›››thunder and lightening‹‹‹‹[/color] Stand back, and behold the glory and cower before the terrible and awesome might of Author Fiat! [color=lime]›››thunder and lightening‹‹‹‹[/color] Although I would welcome an author comment, I'm fairly certain that the Faust's high cost is intentional. I also still believe that the illustration in the core on p. 142 is a pleasure pod. To me, the vacant and unnatural eyes are the dead giveaway. [color=red]Moderator edit: Please leave red text for moderators so that people can more easily identify it.[/color]

ShadowDragon, as I indicated previously, I personally understand the basis for the high cost of the Faust, and if I was the GM, would certainly demand a significant cost bump if a character wanted a similar morph. YMMV. We similarly are at loggerheads about whether the illustration is of a pleasure morph or neotenic (although the fact that Posthuman actually used the picture as the avatar for the pods in the MRG, appears very dispositive, despite your misgivings). Let's not further crowd the errata thread. We've raised the issue, and should wait for a response by TPTB.

branford wrote:

We similarly are at loggerheads about whether the illustration is of a pleasure morph or neotenic (although the fact that Posthuman actually used the picture as the avatar for the pods in the MRG, appears very dispositive, despite your misgivings).

And they also used it, and earlier, as the image in the "Neotenic" forum bar. It [i]looks[/i] far more childlike than womanly, and we've [i]seen[/i] a pleasure pod, in the book, it looks nothing like that. Whereas that icon image, and the source image it was derived from, bear a [i]far[/i] greater resemblance to the neotenic morph than to the pleasure pod.

In regards to the Steel Morph, I think that's the point. It has Uncanny Valley after all, it's supposed to make normal transhumans go "Oh god, what the hell am I looking at!?". The original Steel Morph, while much easier to look at, has less of a truly unsettling countenance and more of just a blank, doll-like look which may be insufficiently creepifying. On the note of making people greatly unsettled, I would agree about the Selkie being very Uncanny.

So this was brought up on a 4chan thread, but the Blackbird synthmorph (p. 12) has incompatible enhancements. It has both Reduced Signature and Invisibility, which according to Panopticon are not supposed to mesh, and the wording of the enhancement indicates that they can't be both applied to the same morph, not that they can't be used at the same time.

That should be clarified in that case, since the Morph's description doesn't state it's an exception to Invisibility's normal rule of incompatibility.