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uwtartarus uwtartarus's picture
Europa
I am planning a scenario that has two thirds take place on Europa. Specifically: after an exsurgent outbreak in a morph-lab, the Sentinels are tasked with locating an brinker scientist slash genegineer prodigy, who may be infected but is otherwise responsible for the outbreak. They travel to his subsurface brinker collective/research station (still on Europa), and with homages to The Thing (1982 & 2011) then track down the infection to a recently arrived artifact from Iapetus (the Outer System's TQZ). But my problem is: I don't know a lot about Europa in the setting. It has a break down of their politics (like Titan) in the Rimward book, and I know that it is not Jovian, and is very transhuman (unlike Callisto's Hyoden which is apparently the transhuman fringe part of the Jovian Republic), but beyond that I am lost. What are the laws on weapons? Martian outback? Autonomist? Lunar paranoia? What is their economy? Is it hypercapitalism like Mars or Morningstar? Or more Extropian? AnCol? For that matter, what is their politics? They have a government, so they aren't AnCol per se, do they have police? Presumably I suppose, but is it Lone Star or StateSec? Or more like Technosocialism ala Titan? Pretty much anything on Europa's stuff would beyond the "it's underwater and its really transhuman like 'The Quiet War' and UNDERWATER! plus alien life!" would be helpful. If it's right in the books, any page numbers would suffice, am I missing something?
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thebluespectre thebluespectre's picture
And while we're here
And why would Rimward suggest that there are predatory species of fish under Europa without providing stats for them? Because you know a player will try to either fight them or tame them.
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ORCACommander ORCACommander's picture
if you stat it they will kill
if you stat it they will kill it :P
ShadowDragon8685 ShadowDragon8685's picture
ORCACommander wrote:if you
ORCACommander wrote:
if you stat it they will kill it :P
If you don't stat it, they'll assume it's so miserably weak that literally any damage whatsoever kills it. Then they will kill it and haul it into a habitat for a fry-up.
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Kassil Kassil's picture
ShadowDragon8685 wrote
ShadowDragon8685 wrote:
ORCACommander wrote:
if you stat it they will kill it :P
If you don't stat it, they'll assume it's so miserably weak that literally any damage whatsoever kills it. Then they will kill it and haul it into a habitat for a fry-up.
I might follow that with a "Roll Moxie x10. Oh, you failed? Cool." And then the next time they egocast or resleeve from a post-fish-fry backup, "You've got this negative Trait now. That fish gave you a really novel prion disease that left permanent ego damage." Or just have the habitat give them hell for killing and cooking an endangered species.
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ShadowDragon8685 ShadowDragon8685's picture
Kassil wrote:I might follow
Kassil wrote:
I might follow that with a "Roll Moxie x10. Oh, you failed? Cool." And then the next time they egocast or resleeve from a post-fish-fry backup, "You've got this negative Trait now. That fish gave you a really novel prion disease that left permanent ego damage."
That would be a dick maneuver.
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Or just have the habitat give them hell for killing and cooking an endangered species.
Now that would be perfectly reasonable and fair. :)
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Chernoborg Chernoborg's picture
Or...
Or want to sleeve into them!
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thebluespectre thebluespectre's picture
If it lives, they will want
If it lives, they will want to make a Pod out of it. Where is that in the big book of TTRPG rules?
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ShadowDragon8685 ShadowDragon8685's picture
thebluespectre wrote:If it
thebluespectre wrote:
If it lives, they will want to make a Pod out of it. Where is that in the big book of TTRPG rules?
That's probably an Eclipse Phase exclusive.
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Kassil Kassil's picture
ShadowDragon8685 wrote:Kassil
ShadowDragon8685 wrote:
Kassil wrote:
I might follow that with a "Roll Moxie x10. Oh, you failed? Cool." And then the next time they egocast or resleeve from a post-fish-fry backup, "You've got this negative Trait now. That fish gave you a really novel prion disease that left permanent ego damage."
That would be a dick maneuver.
Sure. But there are occasionally times a dick maneuver is needed to remind players that the game world doesn't exist solely for them to shoot at. Not often, and I wouldn't use the above example unless the player(s) in question were making a habit of eating anything they came across. (And even then, the negative trait would likely be something minor.)
ShadowDragon8685 wrote:
Kassil wrote:
Or just have the habitat give them hell for killing and cooking an endangered species.
Now that would be perfectly reasonable and fair. :)
And, alas, totally lost on certain kinds of players, for whom there is a novel prion disease at some unknown point in their future. >.> (I don't /like/ to unfairly penalize a player, I swear.)
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Chernoborg Chernoborg's picture
I kind of see Europa as being
I kind of see Europa as being a bit of an "old west" style melting pot. You have a bunch of different factions brought together and while ordinarily they don't get along they're all there for the same reason, namely to study the amazing life of the moon. One of the strange benefits of the current antagonism between the Republic and the Consortium is that the ability to exploit resources is severely curtailed so most stations are on site research only( a few samples get shipped out regularly to feed the interest in razor eel "research"). This leads to a more cooperative attitude between the disparate polities, like how nations work together ( kind of) in Antarctica. Weapons laws are probably pretty forgiving as aggressive native predators would need shooing off. The weapons themselves are rather different. Torpedoes replace missiles,harpoons instead of bullets, ink sprays and eelskin are probably popular . More exotic weaponry could include Shkval-style supercavitating rockets and projectiles based upon the nematocysts of jellyfish. Curiously, the environment allows for more privacy than is normally available. The mesh has to be directly connected between habs via cable so staying off the grid is easy. Different habs having very different environmental setups -standard atmosphere and pressure, trimix, equalized pressure gases, LBM, oxygenated water (who wants the bubbling treasure chest?)- also limit to a degree who can visit. Between habs there may be a regular submarine transportation service like the train coming through town- or even an undersea Scum fleet! Politically, it's probably a transitional economy. The mix of AA and PC would pretty much guarantee that. Most law enforcement is determined on a local level, Sheriffs and deputies ,with larger police forces at the more cosmopolitan big cities.
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rfmcdonald rfmcdonald's picture
Europa is a parliamentary
Europa is a parliamentary republic that is a major enclave of progressive technosocialism in the Jovian system. (The Jovians have tried, and failed, to prevent this.)
uwtartarus uwtartarus's picture
As a technosocialist state, a
As a technosocialist state, a diet Titanian Commonwealth, do they use the hypercorp Credit or the Titanian Kroner, or some local currency? Or is it basically anarchist except there is a state? Confused on the economics here.
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Axel the Chimeric Axel the Chimeric's picture
Europa is, relatively
Europa is, relatively speaking, pretty resource-rich. Someone with a fusion reactor has a, for all intents and purposes, unlimited supply of fuel available, and the oceans can likely be sifted for organic materials if need be. Running a fusion reactor, of course, is not exactly something anyone can just do for giggles, though, so there's probably agglomerations of polities centred around a power source. These polities probably resemble Venusian habitats more than anything, since bubble warrens do best with larger amounts of living space. The only downside is that materials beyond basic necessities may be comparatively rarer. They would need to come from the ocean floor, and that's something worth considering the import of. You'd probably see cities founded above or around areas in the crust that are tectonically active, simply because it constantly shoots up new raw materials. This could make polities reasonably sparse, and you might even see them follow lines along areas of geothermal activity. This probably means Europan cities are reasonably independent of one another; they don't have much reliance on trade with each other but probably do have a rich relationship with each other academically and the same with foreign polities. There also is apparently a formalized government of sorts, which means that each city likely has standardized forms of government in the shape of representative democracy. The economy, therefore, is probably transitional; a mix of credits and rep, with the local governments providing basic resources to all, thanks to their relative abundance. Given the presence of Jovian terrorists and the relatively progressive mindset, I imagine weapon laws are probably reasonably strict by system standards; licensing, restriction on types of weapons owned, etc. Everyone remembers the Fall, though, so the idea of banning weapon ownership would likely seem foolish to most transhumans. That's my best estimate, there.
ORCACommander ORCACommander's picture
I haven't gotten very far in
I haven't gotten very far in rimawrd so the whole time i have just been assuming that titanian commonwealth held sphere of influence over europa. and then there is a possibility for sub surface habs but the pressures and currents are a big unknown factor
uwtartarus uwtartarus's picture
Thanks for the input, I was
Thanks for the input, I was trying to decipher the economic bits and couldn't figure out how they'd be set up. The Extropians use credits and are AA, so no reason why Europans couldn't use credits and still otherwise be transitional technosocialist (id est, free food and clothing, luxuries cost a skosh of money).
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