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How much does the 'cloud compute' aspect of the mesh affect software functionality?

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How much does the 'cloud compute' aspect of the mesh affect software functionality?
How much does the 'cloud compute' aspect of the mesh affect software functionality of, say, tacnet and other resource heavy applications? If the mesh goes down would tacnet cease to function or could it become peer-to-peer? Can an ecto act as a wireless access point instead of using the mesh to route the traffic indirectly? Do mesh inserts act only as wifi antennas or can directly message someone without a mesh connection over the air (not using microwave or laser link)? Edit: One other question! Is throughput of wireless mesh connection versus a hardwired connection a concern in Eclipse Phase ? I guess I'm asking if there's a reason (besides security concerns) to want to use a wired connection over a wireless connection?
Googleshng Googleshng's picture
The whole idea behind the
The whole idea behind the mesh is to avoid these being issues, really. The way the current real-world internet is set up, everything is set up on, essentially, this big forking tree, where you have to travel up through a series servers to a main pipeline between the biggest servers, which generally works, but if any given router goes down, anyone coming through that is cut off. With the mesh though, you don't have that hierarchy. Everyone's just connected directly to everyone else within range, relaying things for each other, and if anyone goes down, traffic just flows around the hole they leave, and everyone else is still connected to each other. In other words, it's ALWAYS peer-to-peer, and the only way you aren't going to have mesh access is if you are the only one around with mesh inserts. Even if it's just you and the rest of your team totally isolated on some rock, you're connected to each other.
DivineWrath DivineWrath's picture
From what I understand, the
From what I understand, the mesh technology are advanced comm systems that are able to figure out how to connect to each other, using any and all options available. A single mesh device is able to determine if it is within comm range of the mesh device it wants to communicate with, if not it is able to ask other mesh devices (that are within range of it) if they are in range of the mesh device it wants to talk to, likewise those mesh devices can ask the same question themselves. Likewise, a single mesh device would likely try to keep tabs on the devices it is able to connect with, trying to keep track of how much resources (processing power and unused mesh bandwidth) the device(s) have to spare, probably favoring the ones that have plenty of those to spare in order to avoid downtime. The net effect is, if you needed an improvised mesh network, you merely need to throw around a bunch of ectos so every area you want covered is covered and connected. If you were exploring a cave, you could leave a trail of ectos so you could remain in contact with the outside. The way I see it, if there is a trick that you could think of, it has already been figured by someone else. The most likely reason why a mesh network would be down or not working is because someone has sabotaged the mesh. So yes, your tacnet will work with your friend if the mesh is down... assuming you and your friends are able to connect with each other without using the mesh. If you are worried about radio jamming, bring some other comm systems as backup like laser.
ORCACommander ORCACommander's picture
we kinda have this to a
we kinda have this to a limited extent today. it just requires rather sophisticated netcode and programming backbone. The unreal developement kit for example you can set up a rendering farm. it will parcel off parts of the task to be completed by the other computers.
Lorsa Lorsa's picture
Like stated above the mesh is
Like stated above the mesh is never "down" in the same sense internet is down. You with your mesh inserts IS the mesh. What can happen is signal jamming, just like with any wireless network. Saying that the mesh is "down" means either that there are no other devices but you in proximity (unlikely) or that there's heavy jamming going on. It's a very inappropriae term though, so whenever someone says "the mesh is down", ask if they mean there's jamming and if you can locate the source or if they mean there are no other devices in range. I really don't think Tacnet is that resource heavy. I'm pretty sure you could easily run it on today's computers, which means a cranial computer has more than enough power all on its own.
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uwtartarus uwtartarus's picture
Risk of exsurgent infection
Risk of exsurgent infection via radio is the best justification for a loss of TacNet and/or mesh activity.
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lets adapt lets adapt's picture
Thanks for the replies! This
Thanks for the replies! This helps a lot!