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Do morphs need sleep?

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Baalbamoth Baalbamoth's picture
Do morphs need sleep?
just kinda wonderin... a human will die without sleep, do morphs need it? what about infolife?
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CodeBreaker CodeBreaker's picture
It depends. Biomorphs
It depends. Biomorphs generally need to sleep. Morphs with Basic Biomods require 3-4 hours of sleep a night. My brain is catching on there being implants that reduces that further, down to 2, but I can't check that at the moment. Synthmorphs, that depends. By RAW and technically RAI, no, they do not require sleep. This is mentioned in the Core rulebook, and it was confirmed by Rob Boyle in an rpg.net thread about two and a half years ago. However since then there has been discussion on why that should not be the case, or what that might mean for other parts of the setting. Arena, our resident boffin, puts forward a convincing case for Synths needing sleep. So Biomorphs are a yes. Synthmorphs are a GM fiat, but not necessarily. And personally I would go with whatever option you use for Synthmorphs when considering Infomorphs. If you run with Synths needing sleep, I would say that Infos need some downtime as well. Edit: there should be a few good threads in the Search function if you have a look. Keywords "sleep morphs" or something.
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DivineWrath DivineWrath's picture
The augmentation, Circadian
The augmentation, Circadian Regulation (Core Rulebook, p. 304), is the augmentation that allows biomorphs to live and thrive on 2 hours of sleep every 24 hours, or 4 hours every 48 hours. The augmentation allows a biomorph to wake up or fall asleep almost instantly.
nerdnumber1 nerdnumber1's picture
On the subject of synthmorph
On the subject of synthmorph sleep: I tend to like to stick to RAW/RAI that they don't need real "sleep", but, to keep with my knowledge about the psychological need for sleep, I say that they go through an optimized brain-restarting nano-nap. Basically, your artificial brain gets through all the necessary, psychological parts of sleep (not needing to worry about the physical parts), using a sort of accelerated time, in the space of a fraction of a second to a few seconds. While by no means a trivial problem, the idea of NOT needing to waste a sixth to a third of your life sleeping was so attractive to overworked cognitive scientists working on brain emulation (many of whom had traumatic memories from grad school), that optimizing a quick artificial sleep simulation was prioritized soon after the first viable brain emulations were complete. This way I can respect sleep's role in maintaining human sanity and still have tireless machine characters by RAW.
zombiak zombiak's picture
The question of infomorph
The question of infomorph sleep is elaborated in 'Transhuman'.
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For infomorphs that regularly deal with biologicals, a cycle of activity divided into three watches tends to emerge. Watches are of 8–10 hours in length, depending upon whether the local day cycle is 24 or 30 hours. The first watch, corresponding to daytime (or whatever period of time the majority of the biologicals are active and working) is spent on necessary work tasks. The second watch may be spent on socializing, recreation, or hobbies. The third watch is devoted to self-maintenance, reflection on the prior day’s events, and preparation for the next day—which often includes getting a head start on work.
It also mentions that while infomorphs are basically tireless, they still do get *bored* with their work, hence the three-cycle day including self-maintenance/introspective downtime. Since an ego in a synth shell is basically an infomorph run on a cyberbrain instead of an emulated cyberbrain, I'd say that similar rules apply to synths. Additionally, both synths (and infomorphs, I guess) may use legal narcoalgorithms to induce a dream-like state while nanobots do some maintenance work in their sleeping pod, which are apparently a thing, as described in Transhuman:
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Synthmorph:You actually have a small private storage pod for downtime and to keep a few possessions.
Patrick Northedgers Patrick Northedgers's picture
Some do, some do not
I assume, based on what was said in the corebook, that biomorphs do sleep 4h per 24h (less if proper implants are used), while synthmorphs and informophs do not sleep at all. It does not mean that they do not rest, as mentioned in this thread, they do - but rest means many things, including - for instance - reading and gaming, while sleep is a very particular condition - a condition of biological brain. A cyberbrain has no neurotrasmitters and uses other means to order memories - thus sleep is unnecessary. The question is - what about pods? It is repeatedly mentioned that their brain is part biological, part electronic, and the have a cyberbrain listed among their implants, yet they can be targets of async powers.
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Armoured Armoured's picture
Pods and sleep
Sleeping doesn't only let the brain have downtime; it allows your entire body to flush built-up toxins, replenish your immune system, and heal without the body doing annoying things like run around. Pods would need this. Presumably they have basic biomods as standard, which I guess is what reduces that down to 4 hours. They should be able to have Circadian Regulation installed into a pod, like most bioware. Of course, Medichines can do this too, but for game mechanics sake you could argue that you have to filter dead nanomachines from your bloodstream sometime. The cyberbrain in the pod could stay active during that time, though. Presumably egos use the time to run their rapid-sleep-emulation that nerdnumber1 suggested, or run the latest MRGCNN XP. The rapid-sleep-emulation could do what we currently think sleep does. Neural growth and pruning, allowing the formation of long-term memories and integration of new skills. In infomorphs this basically means reformatting your recent memories and integrating it with the ego, a one-ego merge, if you will.
harveey harveey's picture
morphs
Yes, like any other creatures morphs also has to sleep and take a rest. how do i get followers on pinterest
Baalbamoth Baalbamoth's picture
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"what do I want? The usual — hundreds of grandchildren, complete dominion over the known worlds, and the pleasure of hearing that all my enemies have died in highly improbable accidents that cannot be connected to me."
Baalbamoth Baalbamoth's picture
well.. an old infomorph...
might be running 8 hrs of virus cleaning and virtual hard drive verifications and god knows how many other system checks...
"what do I want? The usual — hundreds of grandchildren, complete dominion over the known worlds, and the pleasure of hearing that all my enemies have died in highly improbable accidents that cannot be connected to me."