Seem that is possible use the Maxwell Demon effect for obtain energy, can be used to cool PV pannels and for obtain enetgy from hot enviroments..
[url]http://www.quentron.com/theory.html[/url]
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A real Maxwell demon
Sat, 2012-10-27 16:39
#1
athanasius
A real Maxwell demon
Sat, 2012-10-27 20:51
#2
Arenamontanus
I predict the project and
I predict the project and company will quietly fold, perhaps taking some investors money with it.
Breaking the second law of thermodynamics means that you have a device that makes systems reliably move from likely states to unlikely ones. That is not just breaking dogma, it is going counter to what probability is about. Want to bet on it?
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Sun, 2012-10-28 02:25
#3
Decivre
Yeah, both the claims and
Yeah, both the claims and website scream "We are the new Time Cube". I call BS.
That's not to necessarily say that Maxwell's Demon is impossible… but I highly doubt these guys with a dubious website have succeeded where the scientific community as a whole have not.
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Sun, 2012-10-28 12:31
#4
athanasius
sorry, i'v read this
sorry, i'v read this something like a photovoltaic effect that work on IR...
This is an old thought experiment of mine: take a box with a gas at arbitrary themperature, cover it with PV cell that conver from IR to near microwave, the box will be cooler as cell produce electricity.
The second law was based on pre Quantum and pre Relativity observations and concepts so...
Sun, 2012-10-28 13:24
#5
Decivre
athanasius wrote:sorry, i'v
So was the Law of Conservation of Mass and Energy, as well as a multitude of other aspects of reality we consider canon to our scientific understanding. Age does not denote inaccuracy. Even Newton's Laws of Motion were not inaccurate per se… they simply did not take into account something that had not been discovered yet (time dilation and relativity).
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Sun, 2012-10-28 19:00
#6
Arenamontanus
athanasius wrote:This is an
You are implicitly assuming there exists a colder outside that cools the PV - just a standard heat engine. If there is no outside, then the PV will heat up. That mean the conduction band will be too full to accept new electrons excited by photons and the effect will stop. If you remove the "hot" electrons you are making use of a cold heat reservoir somewhere on the outside, even if it doesn't look like a cold reservoir.
...which means it has stood the test of time. It has survived several radical physics revolution unchanged. In fact, thermodynamics (via statistical mechanics) was crucial for the birth of quantum mechanics. Quantum entropy is a pretty well developed area, and while it sometimes produce weird findings (like that you can extract a bit of energy from quantum entanglement) it doesn't contradict classical thermodynamics.
Relativistic thermodynamics is far weirder, since the direction of time is up for grabs. But again, check out black hole thermodynamics and Unruh radiation: while bizarre in many ways, the papers are very firmly on the side of the second law being true.
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