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Character Creation Questions (If you're surprised by this, you're probably new too)

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Sat, 2012-10-27 11:33

RustedPantheress RustedPantheress's picture

Character Creation Questions (If you're surprised by this, you're probably new too)

While I get the character creation method (Allocate here, allocate there, half hour to 45 minutes max), I do have some questions about the order of how things are done. Do skill bonuses from Background and Faction apply before or after skill buying? If my morph bonus raises an Aptitude above the morph aptitude cap, is it still cut off at the cap? I wish to know these things.

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Sat, 2012-10-27 12:19

Fion Ravenwater Fion Ravenwater's picture

Not sure, but I think

Not sure, but I think Background and Faction apply before skill buying. Your Aptitudes are limited by your Morph Aptitude Cap. Morph Aptitude bonuses don't break this. Implants do, however. Ex. I'm playing a character with SOM25 base. I sleeve into a Fury. My SOM is 25+10 but it's capped at 30, so I have SOM 30. If I later modify that Fury with Muscle Augmentation, I will go to SOM 35.

Sat, 2012-10-27 12:35

RustedPantheress RustedPantheress's picture

Okay, I have some reworking

Okay, I have some reworking to do on that one. Thanks. EDIT: Does the aptitude cap effect my skills?

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Sat, 2012-10-27 12:27

Decimator

Bonuses from aptitudes,

Bonuses from aptitudes, background, and faction all apply before skill purchase. Bonuses from morphs and gear apply after skill purchase. Morph aptitude caps do apply to the aptitude bonuses. You can't make a splicer with 30 Cognition without also applying the "Exceptional Aptitude" trait to the morph. Also, are you using the excellent [url=https://sites.google.com/site/eclipsephases/home/cabinet/Eclipse%20Phase... generation spreadsheet[/url] by Kindalas?

Sat, 2012-10-27 13:35

RustedPantheress RustedPantheress's picture

I'm taking a look at that,

[s]I'm taking a look at that, but there is no Menton option for the morphs.[/s] Nevermind, found it.

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Sat, 2012-10-27 12:55

Colin Chapman Colin Chapman's picture

As per EP, pg. 124, Aptitude

As per EP, pg. 124, Aptitude Maximums: "Every morph has an aptitude maximum, sometimes modified by traits. This maximum represents the highest value at which the character may use that aptitude while inhabiting that morph, reflecting an inherent limitation in some morphs. If a character’s aptitude (including any bonuses from that morph) exceeds the aptitude maximum of their morph, they must use it at the maximum value for the duration of the time they remain in that morph. This may also affect the skills linked to that aptitude, which must be modified appropriately." The last two sentences are particularly relevant, so yes, unless you have a morph that is modified by something like Exceptional Aptitude, that cap is a cap is a cap. Similarly, that cap also impacts the skills linked to that Aptitude while using that morph. Colin

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Sat, 2012-10-27 12:57

Colin Chapman Colin Chapman's picture

RustedPantheress wrote:I'm

RustedPantheress wrote:
I'm taking a look at that, but there is no Menton option for the morphs.

Click "Morph Type: Core Book" then "Model: Mentons".

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Sat, 2012-10-27 12:57

Decimator

RustedPantheress wrote:I'm

RustedPantheress wrote:
I'm taking a look at that, but there is no Menton option for the morphs.

Try "Mentons" instead. Dunno why it's that way.

Sat, 2012-10-27 13:47

RustedPantheress RustedPantheress's picture

Everything makes a lot more

Everything makes a lot more sense now, especially thanks to that character generator. Now I just need a game...

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