igetschtabby wrote:

Are they represented in Eclipse Phase? Can you uplift them? And if not, why? I mean, come on. They're elephants.

I haven't seen anything about them. You'd probably need to be set up on an exo-planet before attempting the process; you'd need the space.

You can never forget the Elephant when it comes to an Uplift. These massive creatures have been examined many times to be uplifted, but several problems kept arising. The main issue was the creature's overall size. Many places are not designed to actually house the uplifts great size. This was overcome by essentially making them walk on their knuckles. The Neo-Elephant will normally walk and interact with the environment while on all four limbs. They use their trunk as a prehensile hand. They normally stand about 2.5 meters tall when like this. The Neo-Elephant can stand on its hind feet and will stand almost 3.8 Meters tall. It can lift a great deal more than a standard biomorph due to its inherent strength. The biomorph does not lack in agility, but its great size does make it an easier target to hit. It's common to see these biomorphs made into walking artillery platforms however. [b]Implants:[/b] Basic Biomods, Basic Mesh Inserts, Cortical Stack, Prehensile Trunk (Counts as Prehensile Tail), Tusks (Counts as claws without being able to retract) [b]Aptitude Maximum:[/b] 30 (40 for SOM) [b]Durability:[/b] 40 [b]Wound Threshold:[/b] 8 [b]Advantages:[/b] +5 COG, +5 INT, +10 SOM, [b]CP Cost:[/b] 40 [b]Credit Cost:[/b] High [b]Disadvantages:[/b] Large target (+10 to hit in combat)

There is a whole section of the panopticon dedicated to uplifts. Might be a worthy read as it covers a wide field of things deal with them in the setting.

Panopticon Page 100 wrote:

It is rumored that elephants joined the uplift ranks only to go extinct during the Fall

Quincey Forder wrote:

I could see a bunch of uplifted elephants living as boudhist monks in a temple on some exoplanet or under isolated Martian dome. Medidating and debating the Martian day away. Uplifted elephants could be good protectors of secrets, hidden under their temple/monasteries

You mean like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxZFNMtahfg :D

Yuuuuuuuup! That's where I rip...I mean I got the idea :D I admit it, I'm big Thundercats fan (and Young Justice, and Tron Uprising, and Green Lantern, and Korra...)

I quite possibly could be, the author is cited in the reference section.

Impressedly: very nice wiki work there Role playlist I imagine them to be something like the elcor and those elephant monks in Thundercats Very low tone, baritone almost, and inflection less, no real emotion peering through, so they, like the Elcor, have to describe explicitely what the seek to convey And now I just have that mental image of a Neo Elephant sentinel working with a Neo octopus sentinel in a famed Expedia show... Blasto 6!

The last time we did elephants someone came up with a really cool name. Which I cannot remember. Time to hit that search function I guess. To the internets, away!

I seem to recall one of the books saying there were elephant uplifts, but they weren't evacuated during the Fall. There are some elephants in some colonies on Luna (presumably some sort of pygmy elephant). I also seem to recall reading something about an elephant breed or species called the Ganesha or something. (edit: I did. It's something I wrote, for my recommended GM notes for Continuity :P So no elephant morph.)

jackgraham wrote:

Probably not very practical in normal EP situations (c.f., space bear), but then, so is being a whale.

Not to mention drunken sun whales... What will we do with a drunken sun whales, what will do with a drunken sun whale? What will we do with a drunken sun whale early in the morning? Seriously, now, I think that Neo elephants, wit their natural edetic memories would make awesome information brokers NPCs Teachers, too. And bouncers, as well.

I'll just suggest somethin else that is a bit off the wall, here. Uplifted Horses. Horses aren't stupid, they have about the intelligence of a five year old. So they are probably uplift-able. The biggest obstacle is most likely their tiny short-term memory- Their short-term memory only lasts three seconds before something is forgotten. Kinda difficult to train them at times, due to that. Otherwise, you have a sensitive digestive tract (Very fixable) as well as being a quadraped (Also very fixable) A new possibility.

I'll work on Space Bear on the Wikia after a bit. I'm slowly getting some stimulants going that I can get more data processed. Don't be afraid to add a page yourself. If you need help editing wiki pages though, let me know!

Centauri TV star? Kinda look like a relative of good ol' Londo Mollari Anyway all Babylon 5 nostalgia aside.. What kind of society elephant uplift would have?

Tnargraef wrote:

You can never forget the Elephant when it comes to an Uplift. These massive creatures have been examined many times to be uplifted, but several problems kept arising. The main issue was the creature's overall size. Many places are not designed to actually house the uplifts great size. This was overcome by essentially making them walk on their knuckles. The Neo-Elephant will normally walk and interact with the environment while on all four limbs. They use their trunk as a prehensile hand. They normally stand about 2.5 meters tall when like this. The Neo-Elephant can stand on its hind feet and will stand almost 3.8 Meters tall. It can lift a great deal more than a standard biomorph due to its inherent strength. The biomorph does not lack in agility, but its great size does make it an easier target to hit. It's common to see these biomorphs made into walking artillery platforms however. [b]Implants:[/b] Basic Biomods, Basic Mesh Inserts, Cortical Stack, Prehensile Trunk (Counts as Prehensile Tail), Tusks (Counts as claws without being able to retract) [b]Aptitude Maximum:[/b] 30 (40 for SOM) [b]Durability:[/b] 40 [b]Wound Threshold:[/b] 8 [b]Advantages:[/b] +5 COG, +5 INT, +10 SOM, [b]CP Cost:[/b] 40 [b]Credit Cost:[/b] High [b]Disadvantages:[/b] Large target (+10 to hit in combat)

Awesome stat block! I'll find some way to use it in my next EP game! +1 @-Rep for you!

Well in the same sense 40 is about average for many morphs. Furies stand in at 50. Salamanders at 60. Giant Sun Space Whales at 100. The Eye's "Kiyo" has 120. That being said, would a higher durability suit it better? I can imagine that it would myself. I also need to add the Space bear to morphs soon.

Also, given space constraints, I imagine most elephant morphs will be outfitted with things like specialized digestive tracks and temperature tolerance to permit them to exist on exo-planets. There just aren't a lot of places you can buy an elephant-sized flat around Sol these days.

I didn't even notice the cost before. I'd consider giving it a minimum cost, probably of about 40k. That's a big critter, it's going to be resource intensive.