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Is this feasible?

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Sun, 2012-01-01 02:02
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Correctedsun Correctedsun's picture
Is this feasible?
I am currently writing a short story that will involve Les Goules performing kidnapping activities out of Pilsener City and using the stolen morphs as cheap product for sale in Valles-New Shanghai. I'm running through the Core Rulebook PDF for more info, but I'd like your opinion as well. My questions are: A. Is there a method for forcing an ego out of a morph against it's will? B. Can the morph be used properly by a buyer (will there be problems due to the body having been previously inhabited)? C. Does this sound like the kind of activity Les Goules would be likely to get involved in? Also, would this be profitable? I may have some or all of these questions answered as I look through the PDF, but I'd really like some external insight. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
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Sun, 2012-01-01 05:45
OneTrikPony OneTrikPony's picture
Re: Is this feasible?
It's fully feasible. A. Ego bridge. B. Ego bridge. there won't be any mental problems but the stolen morph will still have the old Ego's NanotatID and it won't match the new ego's brainscan (see; Panopticon). So you'll need to wipe that too. (of course if the GM want's it, the Egotransfer tech could fail a roll and the new ego end up in a morph that hasn't been completely or effectively brainwiped or one that is brain damaged.) There are also the issues of negative morph traits, hard use, and physical addiction such as those portrayed in the story "Lack" C. my reading on LesGoules (and other criminal enterprises) from sunward is that they're involved in exactly this type of activity. Poor people go to them for what would be something like a title loan against their morph and when they can't make the payments they end up forfeiting their morph. Most of the issues with getting a used morph are ID problems. I half wrote an adventure where the players use black market sources for new morphs and it turned into a clusterfuck cauz there were all kinds of issues with the ID's. Basically they got themselves sleeved into morphs that had been inhabited by criminals and were set up to take the fall. I should probably work on untangling that plot enough to make it playable.
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Sun, 2012-01-01 14:13
Quincey Forder Quincey Forder's picture
Re: Is this feasible?
OneTrikPony wrote:
Most of the issues with getting a used morph are ID problems. I half wrote an adventure where the players use black market sources for new morphs and it turned into a clusterfuck cauz there were all kinds of issues with the ID's. Basically they got themselves sleeved into morphs that had been inhabited by criminals and were set up to take the fall. I should probably work on untangling that plot enough to make it playable.
I suggest your read Altered Carbon. there is a good example about it another angle that would be fun to play with are fakes hi-profile brands of morphs (Skinesthesia, Skinthetics,...) like there is nowadays for brands like Rolex, Armani, Versace etc that Sylph is really cheap for the price [High] instead of the [Expensive] problem is that it has loads of negative traits, like programmed obsolescence, addictions etc
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Mon, 2012-01-02 14:21
OneTrikPony OneTrikPony's picture
Re: Is this feasible?
Quincey Forder wrote:
OneTrikPony wrote:
Most of the issues with getting a used morph are ID problems. I half wrote an adventure where the players use black market sources for new morphs and it turned into a clusterfuck cauz there were all kinds of issues with the ID's. Basically they got themselves sleeved into morphs that had been inhabited by criminals and were set up to take the fall. I should probably work on untangling that plot enough to make it playable.
I suggest your read Altered Carbon. there is a good example about it another angle that would be fun to play with are fakes hi-profile brands of morphs (Skinesthesia, Skinthetics,...) like there is nowadays for brands like Rolex, Armani, Versace etc that Sylph is really cheap for the price [High] instead of the [Expensive] problem is that it has loads of negative traits, like programmed obsolescence, addictions etc
Love Richard Morgan. I've read all or parts of Altered Carbon, and the other two Kovacs novels multiple times. Seems he is to EP what Gibson was to CP2020 Knockoff morphs is a Geneious idea ;) Just take a splicer or an exalt and install counterfeit spimes after you give it cosmetic surgury to look like a Remade LOL.
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Tue, 2012-01-03 01:08
Correctedsun Correctedsun's picture
Re: Is this feasible?
Ok, cool. I wasn't aware that Ego Bridges could be used for forced removal of an ego. I was under the impression that they could only copy an ego, and that the participant had to be willing. Thank you for the helpful advice.
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Tue, 2012-01-03 02:49
Decivre Decivre's picture
Re: Is this feasible?
Correctedsun wrote:
Ok, cool. I wasn't aware that Ego Bridges could be used for forced removal of an ego. I was under the impression that they could only copy an ego, and that the participant had to be willing. Thank you for the helpful advice.
So long as the subject is restrained or incapable of resisting (aka: unconscious), forced removal of an ego via an ego bridge is perfectly feasible. Some groups might even have ego bridges modified to apply sedatives or force the ego into simulspace to prevent any resistance. Either way, it can be done.
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Tue, 2012-01-03 12:47
Decimator Decimator's picture
Re: Is this feasible?
Decivre wrote:
So long as the subject is restrained or incapable of resisting (aka: unconscious), forced removal of an ego via an ego bridge is perfectly feasible. Some groups might even have ego bridges modified to apply sedatives or force the ego into simulspace to prevent any resistance. Either way, it can be done.
Of course, struggling against an ego bridge may not be the wisest decision either. Brain puree anyone?
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Thu, 2012-01-05 03:37
Decivre Decivre's picture
Re: Is this feasible?
Decimator wrote:
Of course, struggling against an ego bridge may not be the wisest decision either. Brain puree anyone?
Perhaps, but with guardian nanomachines and medichines it is at least [i]potentially[/i] survivable. Plus, the ego bridge nanomachines probably stop their work if you get away from the bridge itself.
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Thu, 2012-01-05 10:24
scnd scnd's picture
Re: Is this feasible?
If I were to run this as a game; I'd like to see this as waking up while being dragged into a trunk next to the unconscious bodies of your friends, being held down and struggling. Your players are essentially waking up in a tub of ice, missing a kidney. Roll it straight. If your player gets away, have them run away half naked, resleave old backups of the party and have them go after the kidnappers. If the player doesn't, proceed as planned. The terrorists win, you wake up as an info morph in a strange habitat as slave labor. The key is, isolation. Only give limited options to a select few players or characters. Now to write this, well, its fiction. Use whatever you need to and don't limit yourself to the content. Have fun with it and don't worry about what others think until you're ready for editing.
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Mon, 2012-01-16 07:46
Prior Prior's picture
Re: Is this feasible?
I suggest that anybody playing EP should read Richard Morgan's "Takeshi Kovacs" novels, specifically Altered Carbon, Broken Angels and Woken Furies, the last being the best, in my own humble opinion.
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