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Jovian and Combat Capability ?

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fafromnice fafromnice's picture
Jovian and Combat Capability ?
Ok I see Jovian like stupid racist retard ... i don't find this view particulary accurate and really prejudicial, so I was asking myself : how to make the Jovian more "capable" ? let's face it the driving force of their societe is fear and fearful people tend to fight, arm themselves but in a world like EP where your moving so fast you don't have the time to think at where you are, the Jovian with their no-implant politics are a little in trouble ... if not dead so how do we make Jovian People able to fight Titan War Machines ? I was thinking of Combat Drug but an extensive use will put some heavy stress points in the ego ... so i found this solution not interesting do you have some idea ?

What do you mean a butterfly cause this ? How a butterfly can cause an enviromental system overload on the other side of a 10 000 egos habitat ?

nezumi.hebereke nezumi.hebereke's picture
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The Jovians are allowed to have implants. All they rail against is the active use (not products of) nanotech and resleeving/heavy genetic mods. The Jovians probably love cyberware and other biomods.
TBRMInsanity TBRMInsanity's picture
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Also remember the Jovians have the best spy agency in the System. They know well in advance of any threat coming towards them and their weakness. The Jovian's best strength is their military tech. All of Jovian society is based around the idea that they need to stay alive and allow the human race to thrive again. As pointed out any technology that isn't a direct progression towards TITAN technology (ie nanotech, AGIs, and other similar technology) is available and developed in Jovian society. I wouldn't be surprised if Jovian scientists develop some of the best cyberware and bioware in the system (with the exception of maybe the Ultimates). Edit: I forgot, also the Jovians are not against using WMDs.
Jovian Motto: Your mind is original. Preserve it. Your body is a temple. Maintain it. Immortality is an illusion. Forget it.
Extrasolar Angel Extrasolar Angel's picture
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As mentioned-Jovians accept use of implants and basic biomorphs. The Jovian spy in rulebook has a flat because he has chosen so. The background options for Jovian characters allow splicer mods. For spec-ops I would see Jovians using combat biomods-although not synths, since they are too easily influenced by hacking and exsurgent virus. However they sleeve into them only for combat time, and not during normal life. Also while they have backups, they stay away from cortical stacks. A backup is safely in the hands of Ministry of Security or Military Defense Ministry, while a stack can be captured. It alse ensures loyalty to the state-as it decides if you are brought back from the dead.
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so how do we make Jovian People able to fight Titan War Machines ?
Besides strong military, it is suggested in the book that they experiment a lot with software and AGI-they probably have strong virus and hacking capabilities-developed in part by scientists from RAND they are rumoured to keep.
[I]Raise your hands to the sky and break the chains. With transhumanism we can smash the matriarchy together.[/i]
It that must no... It that must not be named's picture
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Do the jovies deal withe the factors? Is their bigotry reserved for transhumans or do they also hate the factors and other aliens? If the jovies don't deal with the facotrs then they're at a real disadvantage from those that do and get some advanced tech from them. BTW, any thought of a factor sourcebook for EP?

"I learned the hard way that if you take a stand on any issue, no matter how insignificant, people will line up around the block to kick your ass over it." -Jesse "the mind" Ventura.

nezumi.hebereke nezumi.hebereke's picture
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My understanding is the Jovians do not deal with the Factors. This is indeed to the disadvantage of the Jovians, but to the advantage of the rest of transhumanity (as it eliminates, or at least reduces, the possibility of a system-wide arms race). I'm sure the Factors aren't too happy about that, but the Jovians are probably the group most able to defend themselves against the Factors if they decide to get uppity.
Extrasolar Angel Extrasolar Angel's picture
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Do the jovies deal withe the factors? Is their bigotry reserved for transhumans or do they also hate the factors and other aliens?
Indeed Jovian reservation is not only for synths easily exploited by the Exsurgent virus and TITANs in the Fall, as well as biomorphs whose ultimate seems to become exhumans feasting on humanity, but also for alien unknown species that originates from predatory lifeform that traps its prey before eating it. Truly the evolutionary psychology regarding such species must be of interesting consequences for its relations with others ;)
[I]Raise your hands to the sky and break the chains. With transhumanism we can smash the matriarchy together.[/i]
Rhyx Rhyx's picture
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You know what I've been thinking? Slavery! They don't consider people who have been put in a cortical stack as people right, so... why bother giving them rights. Heavy use of Psychosurgery to make the egos incapable of turning against their masters and soon enough they have all the advantages of a modern Transhuman civilization while keeping their upper crust "pure". I was thinking that historically speaking every great civilization has had their share of Slaves, although not always called that way, there was still a lower class that goes the heavy labor and produces the majority of products. The Planetary consortium has indentured servants infugees, and the Commonwealth has mandatory military service, why shouldn't the Jovians have their own slave class or prisoners of war that have so many safeguards built in to make rebellion all but impossible? And in return have THEM to all the dirty work that requires sleeved and robotic bodies.
fafromnice fafromnice's picture
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Why using slavery when you have specialized war AI ? and you can do something like the cylon in BattleStar Galactica

What do you mean a butterfly cause this ? How a butterfly can cause an enviromental system overload on the other side of a 10 000 egos habitat ?

It that must no... It that must not be named's picture
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Horrible joke time: What's the easiest way to invade the junta? Fly your ships in backwards and the jovies will think you're leaving.

"I learned the hard way that if you take a stand on any issue, no matter how insignificant, people will line up around the block to kick your ass over it." -Jesse "the mind" Ventura.