The Google Docs form seems like an excellent idea, but it seems to be edit-locked at the moment. Therefore... Page 303, column 2, Combined Sensor Systems header, line 2: 'the use lidar' should be 'the use of lidar'. Page 303, column 2, Soundwaves header, paragraph 2, line 8: 'however, can detect' should be 'however, and can detect'. Page 306, column 2, Enhanced Senses header, paragraph 4, line 1: 'Radiation sense' should be 'Radiation Sense'.

Could someone who isn't restricted to their iPad please check page 80, Out'sters sidebar. It might be good readers rendering, but the sidebar has it's title in my main text box for me.

AdamJury wrote:

(The reason: you can't put text in an automatically generated TOC unless it exists in the document; so some AR windows that are listed in the TOC with more straightforward headers have a hidden header with that text in it. In this case, however, it wasn't properly hidden. :P)

Yes, of course. *nods like he knows what those words, in that order mean*

So...why aren't you all writing this in the Errata document instead of here?

I noticed a continuity glitch , so to speak, about Extropia that hasn't been corrected one way or another: on page 97:

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Extropia (44 Nysa) This massive beehive habitat is a major crossroads and anarcho-capitalist/mutualist marketplace

on page 281:

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(...)The largest Cole habitat, Extropia, has a population of 10 million.

I know there is a thread, in Homebrew I believe, about Extropia, but to anyone reading the book and who's not on the forum, it can be quite confusing.

RobBoyle wrote:

Prime Mover wrote:

All Grenade/Seekers are missing blast radius except for Concussion and EMP. Different sized ammo calls for increased or decrease radius. I see only thermobaric mentioned here not sure if others have been addressed yet?

See Blast Effect, p. 193 -- most grenades/seekers don't have a blast radius per se, you simply reduce the DV by -2 per meter from the center. (The ones with a listed blast radius have a different effects, which is why they're noted.)

This is actually how we've been doing it. This line from EP Core pg.340 has brought up questions. (For weapons with a uniform blast effect or other static blast area, divide the base listed radius in half for minigrenades and micromissiles and double it for standard missiles.) So whats best way to come up with the right radius non-standard sizes? (-1 per meter for standard & -4 meter for micro/mini?) Edit: (Or remove the sentence altogether?)

Eclipse Phase core book, pg 200-201: "For un-shielded electronic devices and similarly unshielded transhumans sporting titanium, however, the effects of strong magnetic fields can be devastating." I don't know if this is really an error, or if it's a "feature" but: Titanium isn't magnetic * and has a relatively high electric resistance, which hinders the induction of currents. In fact, hospitals use stretchers made of titanium near MRI machines as titanium is not ferromagnetic like steel or highly conductive like aluminium and does not cause problems with the high fields used in magnetic resonance imaging. Low quality titanium alloys may contain iron as an impurity, but I assume such problems to be solved in a world with nanotech based mass production. Of course, with high-temperature superconductors and nanotech manufacturing, shielding from magnetic fields becomes trivial, as magnetic fields don't penetrate more than a few hundred nanometers into superconducting material, unless the magnetic field strength is high enough to suppress the superconduction altogether **. Though the repulsion caused by such might pose some problems, unless defused by additional layers of magnetic field suppressing / redirecting materials. * As far as metals go. It is slightly paramagnetic. ** Stops the formation of cooper-pairs (electron pairs) which cause the superconduction. Sorry if I got a little too technical there. :) It just happens to be an interest of mine, so... -psiili -- [size=9] An infomorph never forgets. [/size] [size=9] Curiosity killed the octomorph.[/size] [size=9] "He was just as suprised, as he would have been, if a flying spermwhale would have asked him the way to Pillsbury."[/size]

Quincey Forder wrote:

I noticed a continuity glitch , so to speak, about Extropia that hasn't been corrected one way or another: on page 97:

Quote:

Extropia (44 Nysa) This massive beehive habitat is a major crossroads and anarcho-capitalist/mutualist marketplace

on page 281:

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(...)The largest Cole habitat, Extropia, has a population of 10 million.

I know there is a thread, in Homebrew I believe, about Extropia, but to anyone reading the book and who's not on the forum, it can be quite confusing.

I did like the fix mentioned in "building extropia" thread, that Extropia would be a beehive + a cole habitat.

I have a sort of layout-obsession :) so I noted a few errors in the .pdf version (CAT21000): Page 184 formatting/layout error (column 1 shifted a little to the right) Page 192 formatting/layout error (wrong column 1 width - too narrow) Page 200 formatting/layout error (column 1 shifted a little to the right) Page 224 formatting/layout error (wrong column 1 width - too narrow) Page 232 formatting/layout error (column 1 shifted a little to the right)

1st printing Catalyst Page 340 under grenades and seekers 2nd paragraph "Standard missles double the listed DV. For weapons with a unfirom blast effect" Unfirom = Uniform Didn't see this fixed in any of the released errata.

I was curious as to why Carapace armor doesn't stack with worn armor like the other types do. Bioweave light/heavy and the built in armor of synthetics does. Was this a mistake? If not what was the reasoning as to why every kind of armor stacks except this one?

That doesn't swing with whats written in the book. Read the description of Heavy combat armor for synths. This is straight from the book. This modification is bulky and noticeable; the bot frame is encased in a heavy-duty carapace. How is that different from carapace armor? It even uses the word carapace for crying out loud.

Significantly different yes but that doesn't mean it couldn't be designed to fit with clothes/armor. The different plates could be like biological scale armour with one set of scales layered over the next. They don't have to be incredibly thick or large plates to give extensive protection so in my opinion it wouldn't be hard to imagine it fitting under another layer of armor. You know the synthetic heavy combat armor wouldn't bug me as much if it wasn't for the fact that they can get more armor then a military exosuit.

If anything, I'm seeing arguments that some synth armor *shouldn't* be compatible with other armor, but nothing that says Carapace armor *should* be. :) Armor creep seems to be one of the clearest problems in the game.

Wyldknight wrote:

Also carapace does not equal spiky and bulky. Look at a scorpion. That has a carapace armor and it's smooth all around.

Smooth? Perhaps, but still not very intuitive towards armor. I couldn't imagine a scorpion wearing an armor vest, and it would probably be hell to get one on. For you OR the scorpion (even if it was willing).

Wyldknight wrote:

I think Thane Krios from Mass Effect has crocodile like skin and it doesn't seem to hard to get armor on. Anyway I'm dropping that subject because it will go on forever. All I am saying is that it breaks the consistency because every kind of armor stacks except that one. Why even get carapace armor? So you can run around naked and be marginally protected? Well...alright maybe some people would. But I'm ignoring the crazy examples and going for your average one.

An easy fix would be to simply assume that enhancements to synthmorph armor mean that it counts as a layer of armor for purposes of armor penalties. Synthmorphs only get no penalty if they have no armor enhancement. Also, I think it fair to note that the Battle Suit exoskeleton also does not stack... so it's not like they only picked on the carapace armor.

Wyldknight wrote:

Actually it makes perfect sense. Why should your armored vest make it harder to damage the thing you're riding in? What doesn't make sense is that the armor for it is so low in comparison to what a normal person can put on.

When it refers to stacking with worn armor, I think it means when YOU are targeted... as in, you have to rely solely on the exoskeleton's armor and not on anything else with regards to people targeting you. Remember that the rider can be targeted when dealing with exoskeletons.

In the pdf (21000_EP_2ndprinting1), under the header: Spray Weapons, the word "sonic" is used on page 184. "...When you use it: A player uses their Sonic Weapons skill whenever they are attacking with a spray weapon in ranged combat (p. 191)..."

Awesome, thanks Adam. Some really nice changes in there, most of which I agree with entirely :D For those curious but cannot check the files yet, some of the more important ones; MOS is now determined by what you actually roll. So you now always want to be rolling as close to your skill as possible. A roll of 55 with a skill of 60 is now an MOS of 55. Armor is now limited by DUR. So most morphs max out at 30/30 armor. Personally, I would of liked it to be half DUR because I think 30 armor is kind of silly anyway, but what can you do. The Initiative changes that have been detailed elsewhere Full Auto/Burst Fire now have the option to be used for increased accuracy. BF gets +10 instead of damage, Full Auto gets +20. Also I am fairly sure Full Auto got a nerf? Did it not use to be 1d10+10 extra damage? A clarification on Active Sleights, basically makes it so that you can only use one during a single action phase. That means that any Mental Stab ninjas can only do so once a phase. Which wasn't to much of a problem before, but every clarification helps :D Weapon ammo got changed about. Most importantly, the Sniper Rifle now has 12 ammo. Liquid Thermite got a duration of 3 action turns. No more infinate burnings :D

Hey, I recognize this one: beam weapons are now described as having a standard battery and a nuclear battery (to recharge the standard), *and* the standard can be quick-swapped. :)

Looks like a few things snuck there way in. The Psi sleights section is all kinds of wonky :D I'll get my notepad and start going through things I think. I love long nights proofreading by the fire. Edit: Adam, while you are and here and so I don't forget in my email, is there any chance my proofreading credit could be changed from Martin John Swan to just Martin Swan? It was like that in Gatecrashers, and it seems my brain doesn't like the inconsistency :3

CodeBreaker wrote:

Looks like a few things snuck there way in. The Psi sleights section is all kinds of wonky :D

Wow! If you're talking about p. 226-227, that's an awesome bit that a) looks fine in the InDesign file and b) looks fine in the layered PDF I was proofing from but c) is ganked all to hell in the flat PDF. I love problems like this! ;-)

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Edit: Adam, while you are and here and so I don't forget in my email, is there any chance my proofreading credit could be changed from Martin John Swan to just Martin Swan? It was like that in Gatecrashers, and it seems my brain doesn't like the inconsistency :3

Done.

Some good stuff! After a very quick look through with Foxit: [b]Errata[/b]: * The errata states "On both tables, change the Ammo for Light Pistols to 16, for Heavy Pistols to 10, and for Sniper Rifles to 12.", however the table on p.337 lists Heavy Pistols as 16 ammo. * p.118 The text insert beginning "Nico is trying to sketch out a picture of someone’s face". In this paragraph 'a MoS' and 'a MoF' are used when other examples have used '[b]an[/b] MoS'. * p.192 text insert of the combat example, same as above, 'a MoS' is used. * There are a lot of examples of images and tables partially or completely covering the page title/number. When it's fully covered up/removed it looks fine but when partially covered it can look a little odd. Examples: ** p.203 the Weapon Ranges table ** p.205 image ** p.255 hacking sequence insert ** p.272 tables [b]Suggestions[/b]: * p.312, Riot Shields. State that a character can only benefit from one Riot Shield, no matter how many are carried. * Change Damage Bonus to [(SOM+DUR) / 20]. An easy enough change that takes in to account - at least to some extent - the bodymass of the morph. Otherwise you have the situation where Dragonfly morphs hit as hard as Furys. Plus it creatres a stat that can be used for comparative feats of strength. Credit for this should go to Decivre, it was discussed in [url=http://www.eclipsephase.com/expanding-use-existing-mechanics-character-s... thread[/url].

Hey all -- thanks for the feedback! We have made some further revisions, and the third printing is now off to press. Woot! The electronic release and finalized errata will be made available on May 4th. The pre-release files have been removed. Please don't share them with others -- wait until May 4th and share _that_ version with others. :-)