Zero-G is much too narrow. That doesn't sound like it covers driving wheeled things, or maneuvering spaceships, or piloting things that need wings and an atmosphere.

bblonski wrote:

I'd call Physique Somatics to keep with the EP feel.

Good point, but with two really strange words as Skills (both Kinesics and Somatics), I feel there might be a clarity/confusion problem. And Physique is not a bad SF-skill name. I'll have to meditate on this.

bblonski wrote:

I assumed that camouflage and disguise would fall under stealth, or maybe add the Burglary skill from Fate Core?

Hm. There might be overlap between Deception and Stealth here, that is true. "Burglary" does not quite have that true EP feel to it though. You're not a "burglar" in EP, you're an intruder, or a trespasser, or an interloper. I'd imagine all necessary burglary skills would be covered by InfoSec in EP Fate. Chances are low you'll be picking any locks with hair pins in this game! But if lying is essentially all that Deception is for... Then it's not really a Skill, is it? Maybe "Liar" is simply a Persuation Stunt?

This list is pretty much exactly what I'd want to run with. I might split combat into Ranged and Melee just to make it an even 20, although I still might want tactics as a separate skill. Hmm. I'm used to a 5 skill cap with closer to 30 skills, but I think this list is pretty complete. I might have to rethink my 5-cap skill tree preference. I think liar works best as an aspect. Ideally something like "silver tongued devil", "slimy bastard", or "I've got a bridge to sell you". I'm sure you could use stunts to the same effect though. I'm thinking that Psi should just be stunts that use the will skill instead of requiring a separate skill. Thoughts? Here my attempts at a few stunts. I mostly focused on cyberware and psi since those are unique to EP. Cyberware Reflex Booster - Go first in a combat turn unless someone else reflex booster, then determine initiative between characters with reflex boosters, then other characters. Neurochem - Spend a fate point to have another physical action after everyone else has had their first action. Multi-tasking - Spend a fate point to have another mental or mesh action after everyone else has had their first action Medichines - Add 1 physical stress box. Bioweave armor - Reduce all health stress by 1. Skillwire - Choose a 3 rank skill slot. You may change this skill during character advancement instead of changing a rank 1 skill. Enhanced Pheromones - +1 on Persuasion, Networking, and Provoke tests on characters who would normally find you attractive. Psi Alienation - Use Will to make a mental stress attack. Grok - Spend a fate point to understand how to permanently use an alien artifact without penalty. Psi Stab - Use Will to make a physical stress attack. Suggestion - Use Will to add hypnotic suggestion aspects to a target.

I don't really understand what you mean. In what sense are Skills "tied" to these three "parts"? In what sense are they in fact "parts"? What does the "Identity" stress track do? Requiring a milestone to change morphs seems like a very strange restriction in a game where, as a Firewall agent, you might be required to switch morphs several times in the span of one gaming session. In fact, isn't the prospect of resleeving - sometimes at inopportune moments - part of the core EP experience?

I'm planning out an EP/FATE game, and will be having players divvy up their refresh into Ego and Morph pools (which can be re-allocated at milestones). The Ego pool works more or less like normal refresh, but the Morph pool can only be used for physical stunts that are chosen at the time of resleeving. Like the EP somatics stat, it's intended to represent the fact that some people are more able to make effective use of [I]any[/I] body they find themselves in. (For me, that's an important bit of flavor. YMMV.) So if a PC with Morph refresh 2 lives day-to-day in a Splicer morph but sleeves into a Reaper for that special mission, their Morph refresh remains the same, but they get to pick new stunts that reflect their ability to use the new morph's capabilities. (Yes, this does mean that two PCs in the "same" morph will have different attached stunts. Just because a body offers 360-degree vision and a multitude of hands doesn't mean that everyone will be equally able to attend to surround-sight or coordinate more than a single weapon at a time.) Let's say that the same PC later decides to go undercover among the clanking masses. They sleeve into a Case, which can support only a single morph stunt (same as Flat & Spare morphs). They have a couple of options for what to do with their unspent point of Morph refresh: One is to hold it in reserve in order to refuse the GM's attempts to compel the Case's Lemon aspect. The other is to select a more powerful single stunt, which requires an FP to activate, and use the spare refresh to power it. That reflects the fact that PCs are supposed to be exceptional, and can squeeze better than expected performance out of even the least likely bodies. I figure that if a character has a reserve of Morph as well as Ego refresh, whenever they gain an FP for any reason, the player can choose which pool it goes into. ETA: h/t to Kassil for helping me hash this out. ---- Can you fine people think of any places where this setup might run into trouble?

What about skills? Are they all part of the ego and are therefore the same in every morph? Which seems odd especially with skills like Physique.

My take on it is to separate Aspects, Stunts, Extras and a few Skills between Ego and Morph, and "paying" for the Morph by "temporarily" investing Refresh points when resleeving. In this way, Morphs are treated much like the various supernatural creature templates from the Dresden Files RPG; each character has a fairly large pool of Fate points in their Refresh pool to begin with, allowing for sinking them into a template to gain a specific set of special abilities. In my vision of Fate EP, this is exactly how Morphs work. Whenever resleeving, you obviously lose all Stunts, Aspects, Extras, morph Skill bonuses and Physical Stress boxes tied to your old Morph; but you regain all your previously invested Refresh points, and may now allocate the needed amount to the new Morph - ending up with fewer "free" Refresh points if the new morph is more powerful than your last, and more Refresh (and thus more power over the story) if the new morph is weaker. No Milestones required. The exact amount of starting Refresh thus indicates the power level of the campaign; if you want a high action game where the PC:s all end up in Promethean Berzerker-Brainiac Annihilator morphs, shock-full of augmentations and subsystems (lots of Stunts, Stress boxes and Skill bonuses), go for a high number. For a more low-key cloak-and-dagger game, set a lower limit.

I accept that there are different interpretations of the game but in my book, it should not be easy to switch from a human body in a reaper or octomorph. The easiest way to present that with Fate is that a failed integration test gives the character a “Not adapted to morph” with 1-2 free invokes. I do not see how this is “un-Fate-like”.

2nirwana wrote:

What about skills? Are they all part of the ego and are therefore the same in every morph? Which seems odd especially with skills like Physique.

Physique is the only skill that stays with your morph. Narrative justification is that there's been a good bit of research into building morphs that smooth the interface between new neural imprint and morph-based cerebellum-equivalent. Unless it serves the story for someone to be extra awkward.

zarkow wrote:

I don't consider Alertness/Notice an essential Skill in a Fate game. In fact, it's probably detrimental to the flow of the game. The characters will notice relevant stuff or suffer surprises according to the needs of the story and their Aspects; no rolls required.

In your games, with what skill does one (PC or NPC) oppose an enemy who's trying to get the drop on them?