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Catalyst Crossover

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Mon, 2009-06-08 06:01

Bianca-Iscariot Bianca-Iscariot's picture

Catalyst Crossover

I am well familiar with the transhumanist genre - from GURPS excellent Transhumanist game (which has been unfortunately somewhat abandoned with the switch to GURPS 4e) and from fiction. I can reccomend anything by Bruce Sterling - esp. Schismatrix Plus, Ken McLeod's Fall Revolution Series - esp. the Cassini Division, and much of Greg Bear's recent work including Slant, Tangent, and Moving Mars... I am interested to know if this game will be game system compatible with Cthulhutech. And also I am interested in the possibility of storyline crossover between the two. Some toned-down elements would of Cthulhutech would seem to be ideal to pair with the horror elements of Eclipse Phase.... Ideas? Comments from the creators?

Mon, 2009-06-08 06:07

Colin Chapman Colin Chapman's picture

I know EP doesn't share the

I know EP doesn't share the same Framewerk system as Cthulhutech, and as it has undoubtedly been designed to be its own thing, I very much doubt it has system compatibility. Also, as CTech was designed a few years ago by Wildfire, and Catalyst are just CTech's most recent publisher (Mongoose published it before), the folks involved are not the same. CTech is only a Catalyst game insofar as they're publishing it anew, whereas EP is very much a Catalyst creator, with only Mike V. from Wildfire being involved in it as Art Director.

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Mon, 2009-06-08 06:10

Colin Chapman Colin Chapman's picture

Oh, in case you missed it

Oh, in case you missed it elsewhere on these forums, EP is a percentile-based system, which should give you some indication as to how unlike Framewerk its system is likely to be.

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Mon, 2009-06-08 11:50

GregH

I don't know about the

I don't know about the mechanics (Cthulhutech is on that "must have list of things I never get around to buying...) but it's a neat idea. Interestingly enough many of the core ideas of the Mythos seep in quite well with many a Transhuman concept. Indescrible alien entities, actions that are measured across deep time, and the notion of having to sacrifice more and more of yourself if you want to become a major player in a game few minds can comprehend... the "Revelation Space" universe covers that well enough for example. So go for it! (just don't tell the Mi-Go that Pluto is considered a "dwarf planet" now... they get real touchy about that!)

Mon, 2009-06-08 13:44

RobBoyle

As other people already

As other people already noted, Eclipse Phase and CthulhuTech use very different rules systems and are not designed to be system or setting compatible. The could be combined, of course, with some effort from the GM. There are some definite storyline parallels that could be tweaked, madness mechanics for both games, etc. The Framework system used by CT is a bit more complex than EP, so which one you use would depend on your play style. I'm not seeing an immediate easy conversion method, so it would probably require a fair bit of fudging. That said, there are some definite possibilities for facing cosmic horrors from beyond with an arsenal of transhuman technologies and functional immortality.

This is one of the many reasons we're doing Eclipse Phase under a Creative Commons (nc-by-sa) license, so that fans are free to invent homebrewed conversion projects like this and share them with others online. So if you do put together an EP-CT mashup, make sure to let us know!

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Wed, 2009-08-19 15:30

thefnord

They're two separate beasts.

Whereas CTech has well defined races and humanity, by default, is clinging to what makes it human, EP's H. Sapiens (Or rather, what became of us.) is in a constant state of flux. While both are facing nigh-extinction, the former is fighting on its home turn for survival while the other is fighting not only the forces that decimated it, but most of its core concepts, with mortality being thwarted by technology, identify being as fluid as you can afford it to be, and genetic marvels being the purview of more than your sworn enemy and invader.

But now, let's say one was to use on of the Pandora Gates, who knows what squamous, eldritch horrors might lurk among the spacial netherangles. : )

In short, the systems are not meant to work together, but certain concepts might well fit, if you're willing to rewrite the stats. Cheers!

-tF

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Wed, 2009-08-19 15:34

thefnord

Hrm.

Might be worth pointing out that CTech is not under the same license. I'm not sure how open-minded the CTech copyright owners are regarding that sort of thing. : )

-tF

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