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Kommando Kommando's picture
Lizards
Did lizards and reptiles make it off earth? I have not seen any reptiles referenced in any book and there are no reptile uplifts. maybe space isn't for the cold blooded.
DivineWrath DivineWrath's picture
I don't know if lizards made
I don't know if lizards made it off Earth. However, there are probably no uplift lizards. The books have been rather explicit about what species became uplifted, most of which are those that can be counted as low hanging fruit. Many species such as primates, octopi, birds, and pigs already had much the traits needed to be uplifted. Most were clever or smart in some way. Uplifting improved what was already there and guided them to point where they could think a lot like humans. Other species lag behind because there is more that needs to be created. Cats for instance can be smart, but they lack the social traits that you might want in a person. I think one of the books (I forget where) says that uplift cats are being worked on, but 70% produced thus far are sociopaths, with the remaining 30% are probably good at faking that they are not. The books have also mentioned on many occasions that not all uplifting yields success. Some lack the ability to communicate because they don't have the right neural connections. Others are considered Feral, and while they may posses the form factor and intelligence to function in human society, they lack any talent, desire, or the values needed to act civilized. They are described as being quite intellectually and morally offensive, even to other uplifts. If the existence of a sizable number were revealed to the public, it be a blow to the public perception of uplifts, and many would jump on the band wagon and use it as an excuse to repress uplifts even more.
Noble Pigeon Noble Pigeon's picture
I guarantee you that
I guarantee you that somewhere, some genehacker or two...or three...has made reptilian-esque morphs. I'm gonna guess that at least some made it off during the Fall. They're pretty low maintenance pets, at least in comparison to cats and dogs, so I'm sure they're around, especially on Luna or habitats that have a lot of "natural" spaces. Yeah uplifted reptiles are a no go and I'd be pretty horrified if that changed. Reptilians will [i]NEVER[/i] become a thing! [i]NEVER![/i]
"Don't believe everything you read on the Internet.” -Abraham Lincoln, State of the Union address
branford branford's picture
Noble Pigeon wrote:
Noble Pigeon wrote:
Yeah uplifted reptiles are a no go and I'd be pretty horrified if that changed. Reptilians will [i]NEVER[/i] become a thing! [i]NEVER![/i]
I still carry the emotional scars of watching the original V: The Series in my youth. If you ever come across an uplifted reptile, you should run, as no doubt it is an exurgent and it views you as a tasty snack. (As a word of caution, uplifted reptiles are particularly virulent when wearing red 80's jumpsuits and big sunglasses). ﴾͡๏̯͡๏﴿
ORCACommander ORCACommander's picture
i dunno, i can think of a
i dunno, i can think of a more horrifying one: [img]http://hdwallpapersfactory.com/wallpaper/skulls_zombies_obey_they_live_a... and never say never remember there is a colony of greys of mars:)
uwtartarus uwtartarus's picture
There is artwork in
There is artwork in Transhuman and Firewall that shows that despite the (tongue-in-cheek?) prejudice of the previous posts, some people still use cosmetic morph-shaping to have reptilian features. I think it is a matter of natural intelligence for the uplifts, they could only uplift creatures that are arguably really intelligent like corvids (gray parrots, crows), pigs, primates, and cetaceans. Some of the forum-goers have made comments about being social not an issue since Octopus are alien in their social habits, the social stuff is imprinted on them by the uplift. So I think it is an issue of native intelligence. I could be wrong. Also, check out Zone Stalker for some creepy horror involving lizards.
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