Is there any EP canonical source on whether particular groups/factions/hypercorps name their ships a particular way (all ships named after flowers, or famous people, or Old Earth cities), or if they have a particular designation before their name (either the hypercorp/habitat version of "USS" or "HMS" or the functional "MV")?
For example, would Comet Express standard transports be called something like the ST Halley, ST Hale-Bopp, ST Perrine-Mrkos, etc?
And two follow-ups:
1) Would any pre-Fall vessels with military designations (assuming that the spaceship is something like a transport craft and not obviously armed) keep those designations post-Fall when operated in regulated (Planetary Consortium, Jovian, etc.) space, or would re-registration with a new designation be required to avoid suspicion?
For example, a small Belter salvage operation uses as one of its primary ships the troop transport SLOTV HMCS Farley Mowat, formerly of the RCAF. If they want to deliver something they found to a hypercorp, will whoever's checking incoming ships go to red alert if an "HMCS" pops up from a transponder, or are secondhand military vessels common enough that the missiles won't immediately be targeted?
2) What sort of measures are there to avoid transponder "shenanigans"? Say a Nine Lives "soul pirate" vessel is operating using cloned transponder information for a bulk hauler that would be, if anyone had access to the registration records, three times its size and using a completely different propulsion system. While still outside visual range, but at sufficient sensor range that it could be determined that, based on other indicia, this is the WRONG ship, how could a vessel without an outside mesh link figure out that the ship identified by transponder signal isn't the one they're about to meet up with?
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Spaceships Naming Conventions and Registration
Wed, 2014-11-12 00:11
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Spaceships Naming Conventions and Registration
Wed, 2014-11-12 02:00
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1: i would say a lot would
1: i would say a lot would depend on the group whether a rename would be called for. heavily formal systems of the inner systems like morning star/pc would rename the vessels and designations as a matter of course as an extension of current traditions. scum are likely not to care. Anarchs would probably do it for political reasons
2. transponders will be behind firewalls for unauthorized users otherwise they are as easy to switch as today and may be easier to remove on the fly.
Wed, 2014-11-12 10:25
#3
It depends largely on who
It depends largely on who owns the ship, I would expect.
Some would rename the ship, others would not. Some polities may have prefixes and designation policies, some will not. Some new owners of pre-fall ships might rename the ship entirely, drop the prefix, or leave it entirely as it was.
I'd expect that Jovian ships have the most rigid naming conventions, with the Scum names being "whatever we feel like calling the ship this year." The LLC might require that ships flagged in its territory carry prefixes but otherwise not restrict naming, Martian and Venusian hypercorps may provide optional prefixes but allow the ship's owners to use them or not, etc.
Titanian ships are also likely to have prefixes, and their naval ships would have naming conventions, but these conventions would be chosen by the populace, so...
And of course, the Scum. Expect ship names like [i]Ecstatic Metamorphosis[/i], or [i]The Eye of Terror[/i] or [i]I Hate all you Motherfuckers and I Brought a Gun to Work Today[/i], which was voted [i]most likely to get a space traffic controller arrested[/i] five years running.
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Thu, 2014-11-13 09:44
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I have examples.
Pretty sure there's no canon, but I wouldn't use prefixes or many in-setting naming conventions because I'd say they're somewhat redundant, with ships being identified by their transponder/mesh ID.
I do however have unofficial naming conversions I use when coming up with names for scenario ideas. Usually I will use a phrase in some way indicative of the ship's controlling faction.
For the Jovians I tend towards pretty normal or historic ship names, like "Victorious" or "Onslaught", whilst for the PC I like using legal or business terms to convey their corporate nature, such as "Due Diligence", "Reasonable Doubt", "Undue Influence", "Animus Nocendi", "Anticipatory Repudiation" or "Malice Aforethought".
For Titanians I tend towards literary titles like "War & Peace", "Atlas Shruged" or "Thus Spoke Zarathustra", and when considering Anarchist ships I just use anything which sounds like the name of a college rock band, like "Napalm On Toast", "So Many Bridges", "Divide By Zero Error" or "This Is Not A Spaceship".
For Scum I use literally anything but with a tendency towards the obscene, such as "Girl From Nantucket", "Pillar of Spume", or the infamous "Literally Anything But With A Tendency Towards The Obscene".
That last one may be my favourite.
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Fri, 2014-11-14 05:24
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Scum names are the best names
Scum names are the best names ever. The obscene, the literal, the obscure, the headscratchers, etc...
Like the [i]BADGER BADGER BADGER MUSHROOM[/i], the [i]Hokay, Here's The Plan[/i], the [i]Politicians Are The Number One Cause Of STDs[/i], the [i]Giant Pornographic Hermaphrodite Penis[/i], the [i]Obscene Literal Obscure Headscratcher[/i]....
Seriously, it's hard to come up with a good ship name unless you're talking about the Scum. I mean, [i]Scum-Cum[/i] is a good ship name for a good place to get laid.
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Fri, 2014-11-14 11:08
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I've noticed a trend for all
I've noticed a trend for all the autonomist factions to have very Culture-esque names. (Remember, If you see a ship named 'Grey Area,' it is time to move on to a new bit of space...)
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Fri, 2014-11-14 16:48
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Scum...
My favorite scum fleet is the [i]#YOLF[/i], notorious because all member vessels of the fleet (numbering from fifteen to 50+ on any given day) are also all named [i]#YOLF[/i]. Docking administrators and traffic coordinators from Venus orbit to the Belt detest them, and that's pretty much the only reason why they keep doing it.
Fri, 2014-11-14 23:04
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Malice Aforethought is one
Malice Aforethought is one bitching name! On that note, my new head-canon is that the PC names everything like Hyperion names their guns.
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Fri, 2014-11-14 23:04
#9
There is no canon source for
There is no canon source for ship naming conventions and given the policy of seeing spaceships rather as plot devices than gear I'd say it's unlikly that there ever will be any. If you are found of that idea I suggest going with [url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MeaningfulName?from=Main.Nome... Names[/url], possibly with a twist (Nostromo means shipmate in italian, I bet the Xenomorph makes a great one). For military vessels I go with real world examples, politicians and military leaders for Jovian ships, city/habitat names for Titanian.
Highly unlikly *cough*. ;)
Fri, 2014-11-14 23:05
#10
As I remember, the only canon
As I remember, the only canon warship name is the Exquisite Corpse - a captured Destroyer now serving the Autonomists at Locus. Notably, it's stated to be an Althauser Huitzilopochtli class Destroyer. So it's reasonable that at least that hypercorps -if not all of the PC's- Destroyers are named after gods of war. I recall there was another ship class mentioned somewhere else, but the exact details elude me :(
When thinking about the various space forces in EP I generally think in terms of ship classes- Dreadnought, Capital (Battleship,Carrier), Destroyer, Frigate, and Corvette. For the Consortium,as speculated above, deity names are common. Sometimes flavored by which hypercorp is fielding the vessel i.e. Go-Nin has Japanese pantheon names. Jovian ships have a mix of U.S. Navy and Christianity themed names: Dreadnoughts after the archangels, Capital ships after Heroes of the Republic-I expect a Chatterson class was on the drawing boards shortly after The Fall, Destroyers after saints, Frigates and Corvettes after prominent citizens and locations- perhaps from some kind of community/citizen sponsorship program? The Commonwealth,and I'll admit to a bit of cultural stereotyping here, utilizes names from Norse mythology-though I've tried not to use deity names, it didn't seem right with the "No Gods, No Rulers" philosophy.The Dreadnoughts are Ymir, Surtur, Fenris and Jormungandr, Capitol ships are the Gungnir class, Destroyers are the Mjolnir class, Frigates have the Hugin and Munin classes, and Corvettes are the Sleipnir class. The rest of the AA has whatever names they want- there are some great suggestions so far on this thread :) Though I'm somewhat partial to having a Boomstick class kitbashed destroyer in their ranks!
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Fri, 2014-11-14 23:06
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agroschim wrote
That would be better for an Extropian ship, I would think.
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Sat, 2014-11-15 14:48
#12
Well, Scum swarms have pretty
Well, Scum swarms have pretty awesome names such as:
*Carnival of the Goat
*Fool Me Once...
*Get Your Ass To Mars
*Glitter in the Dark
*There's No Going Back
And my personal favorite: Lick me I'm delicious.
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Sun, 2014-11-16 09:04
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They're not all warships :P
I'll have you know that the "Atlas Shruged" has a very special place in the Titanian Fleet; it is the largest, most advanced Garbage Processing Scow in the Jovian system. Packed from stem to stern with hazardous waste, toxic slurry and extensive recyclers, the "Atlas Shruged" is proof that even the vilest sewage can generate wealth.
It's sister ship, the "Transhumanist Wager", is currently under construction.
Muahahaha controversy.
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Sun, 2014-11-16 21:50
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Why is a Saturnine ship in
Why is a Saturnine ship in Jovian space?
Sun, 2014-11-16 22:46
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ORCACommander wrote:Why is a
Two thoughts occur to me.
1: He briefly forgot that Jupiter was the home of the Jovian Junta and not the Titanian Commonwealth.
2: Outsourcing.
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Tue, 2014-11-18 01:39
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Well then
Some factions likely do have ship naming conventions, and others don't. The abbreviations I used are:
JRNV-X : Jovian Republic Naval Vehicle, X being a Name followed by a registration number. I tend to use names of famous military leaders (like Hannibal or Bolivar) or surnames you'd be likely to find in Ameirca North or South.
TDM-X-Y : Titanian Defense Ministry, X being the subminsitry (fleet, coast guard, whatever) with Y being the name + registration number. I tend to use the names of utopians, socialist politicians (i.e. Gilman or Lidforss or just Scaninavian/Canadian place names (like Hamilton or Roskilde).
No idea what I'd do for the Consortium or LLA yet since I haven't run a campaign there. Autonomists or Corp-owned ships tend to just get a name/registration number combo with the name being a random platitude (my favourite was For Ceo and Corporation, a scum vessel) or based off the cultural group I envision owning the ship in question.
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Wed, 2014-11-19 07:06
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Well, they're both cold...
Yeah, I may have accidentally mixed up the locations of Titan and Europa.
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