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Character creation limits

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thebluespectre thebluespectre's picture
Character creation limits
Okay, so you can buy up to 80 points in any one skill at creation, with diminishing returns after 60. Do bonus skill points from backgrounds and factions count towards the 60? if I have +20 in networking and I buy 60 points in networking, will I have to pay couple for the last 20 points? It's not quite clear.
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uwtartarus uwtartarus's picture
IIRC, before you spend CP on
IIRC, before you spend CP on skills, you first get your SAV (15 let's say), add the +20 for Networking (faction), and get 35, then you spend CP, up to 60 costs 1 for 1, so that's 25 points to get to 60 and then you want to be as best as possible so you spend another 40 more points (2 for 1 after 60), to get to 80. Thus you have spent 65 points to get to 80, after the 20 from your background/faction and your base SAV. Then you buy a morph with a +10 to SAV, like a Sylph, and that bumps up your Networking to a 90.
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thebluespectre thebluespectre's picture
So...
You are saying that the Aptitude and background bonus comes before purchased skill points, instead of augmenting it. Okay, I've got some stuff to revise.
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consumerdestroyer consumerdestroyer's picture
Yep, aptitude+background=base
Yep, aptitude+background=base. Then spend CP!
Lorsa Lorsa's picture
consumerdestroyer wrote:Yep,
consumerdestroyer wrote:
Yep, aptitude+background=base. Then spend CP!
That's how I interpreted it as well. Although I have made a houserule that the double skill cost doesn't kick in until Aptitude+45. Also I set the maximum skill level to Aptitude+85. However, this is just a houserule and not a proper rule. :)
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DivineWrath DivineWrath's picture
While most things that
While most things that increase skills during character creation are considered real increases to skill ranks, aptitude bonuses from morphs are an exception. It is possible to push a skill beyond 60 without paying extra for it if that extra came from a morph. In fact, as I understand it, you can also push skills beyond the 80 limit because of aptitude bonuses.
Decimator Decimator's picture
You can push some skills
You can push some skills beyond 60 with aptitude, background, and faction bonuses, as well. 30 Sav, Scumborn background for +20 autonomist networking, Anarchist faction for another +30 autonomist networking for a total of 80 networking: autonomists without any CP penalty. Add the social butterfly trait, and you're at 90.
godmoney godmoney's picture
Decimator wrote:You can push
Decimator wrote:
You can push some skills beyond 60 with aptitude, background, and faction bonuses, as well. 30 Sav, Scumborn background for +20 autonomist networking, Anarchist faction for another +30 autonomist networking for a total of 80 networking: autonomists without any CP penalty. Add the social butterfly trait, and you're at 90.
then if you specialize in NW:Autonomist (whatever) you get another +10
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