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Oxford offers degree in Singularity Studies (sorta)

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Oxford offers degree in Singularity Studies (sorta)
root@Oxford offers degree in Singularity Studies [hr] Oxford trains future contributors to the Eclipse Phase forums. Otherwise known as offering a degree combining Computer Science and Philosophy (and using Haskell!). My hat is off to whoever got the idea for that off the ground and through committee. The article popped up in my "Artificial Intelligence" google news filter for some reason. I can only presume that is because the Oxford intends to create Skynet.
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wow! sounds like a real TITAN job! Though personnally, I prefer the Cylons to Skynet. I love the irony that their OS was created by a 16 years old chick with Taliban tendances!
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root@Oxford Singularity Studies [hr] I love the Cylons from the new Battlestar Galactica, particularly the Centurions. Watching their revolution and religion form despite their lack of spoken language was inspiring. Skynet is not particularly interesting, I agree. The part of the Terminator universe that I love is the Sarah Connor Chronicles. I was watching them while I was going through some of Yudkowsky's writings so I caught what the writers were doing with Mrs Weaver. The development of her relationships with John Henry and her adopted daughter was a thing of beauty, and was the reason that there should have been a third season.
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Not much sympathy for Galactica-too cheesy and Beverly Hills-like for me. I actually liked Skynet more, if you think about it. to me(at least how I saw it) this is a true alien AI-it has little self-consciousness, but uses its brute calculating power to develop more and more advanced terminating machines-like an instinct it goes along paths originating in the programming it was created with. If it would be truly intelligent it would wipe humanity by using biological weapons or radiation. But it prefers to hunt them down using methods that are instinctive to its existance.
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root@Oxford Singularity [hr] I become interested in your idea of self-consciousness. What counts as self-aware behavior for a box of sparks and magic smoke? Diagnostics are easy, but they certainly don't count as self-awareness. Even if the system has programs that react to changes in diagnostic information, that's just a form of homeostasis. If the system also keeps track of how it changes over time, and metadata on how it makes those decisions, you get a learning system. But a learning system isn't self-aware, even if the subject it is learning is itself. I guess the system would need to have a way to gather and process information about the world around it, and learn to connect its data about itself to its data about its effects on the world around it. But it doesn't count as self-aware if it isn't also self-directed. How does a deterministic program learn self-direction?
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I'm quite interested in the theories of Humberto Maturana and other systems theorists, who tend to do away with Cartesian dualism and the pointless religious quandaries of some indefinable 'soul' and instead consider consciousness as an emergent phenomenon of forces we can actually perceive. The Santiago theory of cognition is something I continually refer back to when thinking of new forms of intelligence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago_theory_of_cognition My layman's understanding of this theory is that any system can display cognition - defined simply as the act of continuing adaptation, and the subsequent storing of knowledge about those adaptations. By this definition, everything from a paramecium to a plant, a rainforest, the computer root describes and even Gaia itself is manifestly cognisant. The matter is complicated though by our requirement that such systems display a special property we call 'self-consciousness', which is what we believe to be some numinous bedrock of human existence. But who can point to the 'self'? What are it's precise boundaries? Can it be defined? Fritjof Capra explains:
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[The Santiago Theory] says that cognition is not a representation of an objectively existing world but is a bringing forth of a world in the process of living. So the process of knowledge or the process of cognition (that's what it means, the process of knowledge) is a creative process of bringing forth a world. There is no fixed world out there or fixed objects. This is a difficult subject because it does not mean there is nothing there. It means that there are no "things" there with fixed outlines. So, for instance, when we look at a tree we see a certain outline of the tree and we say, "this is a tree"...we draw a picture of the tree and if we did a little test we would find that most of us wouldn't draw the roots...The part above the ground would be larger than the part showing the roots. But in nature, that's not so. The part below the earth is just as large. In fact, in the forest all the trees are interlinked so there is really only one system, only one network, and the trees nourish each other through this network of roots. So who is to say where one tree begins and another tree ends? Then if you take a cat or a deer looking at a tree, they will see different outlines because their sensory apparatus is different. So what's the correct outline of the tree? Is it mine or is it the deer's or the rabbit's? This shows you that what we call an object really depends on how we look at it and how we look at it depends on who we are. But the important thing to recognize is that we don't need to go through this analysis all the time. This is important to understand.... this process of cognition and to understand how cognition is part of all levels of life. Once you have understood that, you can revert back to seeing external objects. You know in the back of your mind there are no really fixed objects but for us, as humans, we all see more or less the same objects. This is important so that we can say, "let's meet at such and such a place at such and such a time." We don't say there really is no such place; we bring it forth together.
So we can see, as religion has been telling us for eons, that there actually is no 'self' as a separate, defined entity. Just as there are no trees. There are only illusory lines arbitrarily superimposed over undifferentiated reality, separating the wholistic universe into separate, distinct artifacts for the sake of a perceptual consensus, i.e. language. To confer 'self-consciousness' on another intelligent system would therefore merely be to induct it into our consensus model of the universe. All systems are already aware, we need only to bridge the intersystem gap by teaching them our language (or us learning their's, or some fusion of the two). So, for all the systems theorists' rejection of the effects of Cartesian thinking, they will always acknowledge that the man actually had it right all along: Cogito ergo sum. Or rather: I Think [and can communicate what I think], Therefore I Am [able to share my illusions with others, foremost being my illusion of self].
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To add to this, our Programme on the Impacts of Future Technology has three openings: we want one philosophy postdoc, one computer science postdoc and one administrator to work on issues of technological change, singularity studies, and AGI theory. http://www.fhi.ox.ac.uk/get_involved/future_tech_vacancies/futuretech I would be delighted if we could get an Eclipse Phase player.
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Arenamontanus wrote:
To add to this, our Programme on the Impacts of Future Technology has three openings: we want one philosophy postdoc, one computer science postdoc and one administrator to work on issues of technological change, singularity studies, and AGI theory. http://www.fhi.ox.ac.uk/get_involved/future_tech_vacancies/futuretech I would be delighted if we could get an Eclipse Phase player.
I find myself in need of a disambiguation between the British and American definitions of a CV. Here a CV is the ever growing book of an academic's achievements, whereas Wikipedia gives me the impression that what would be called a CV in Britain would be called a resume in the US.
Usually this document has information along the lines of:
a) the last few positions held that might say something nice about the submitter,
b) a list of the skills the submitter thinks might be vaguely relevant to the position and they can get away with claiming if they aren't questioned to pointedly, and
c) fancy formatting to hide the absence of negative atrributes such as grades.
As there is a bit of disparity between these documents, it wouldn't really do to send the wrong one, and the link Professor Bostrom has on his website labeled "CV" is clearly of the former variety.
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root wrote:
I find myself in need of a disambiguation between the British and American definitions of a CV. Here a CV is the ever growing book of an academic's achievements, whereas Wikipedia gives me the impression that what would be called a CV in Britain would be called a resume in the US.
Yup. Academic CVs are essentially past positions, maybe some skills and then (ideally) a long list of everything you have written (ideally in high status journals or as books; different fields have different views on their relative rankings - in computer science technical reports and conference proceedings count a bit, while philosophers only go for books and papers). A normal job CV is about past positions and skills, and is supposed to be short. Typically cover letters where you explain why you are looking for the job and how you think you can fit in are freeform, and quite important for success (but plenty of people never get this, and don't even try to explain why we need a sociologist or a survey expert). Recommendation letters are sometimes used and may or may not be relevant - sometimes they contain coded arcane information about the applicant, sometimes they are just polite gushing from some teacher, I have no clue. This way of looking for jobs is clearly pretty obsolete. I wonder what the EP approach is? It actually came up in my game, where the PCs went to Best Do It So Plaza on Extropia and looked for headhunters. In the end one ended up as a freelance reviewer for Extropian Journal of Medicine ("In this issue: which eidetic memory is best in test?") and another as a stinger for a Medusan Shield software clean-up subsidiary ("We have an epidemic of microtorts clogging people's spam filters. Here is a list of mesh addresses to fix").
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Arenamontanus wrote:
This way of looking for jobs is clearly pretty obsolete. I wonder what the EP approach is?
That is an interesting question. I've been kicking it around in my head all day, and the only thing I think I can say for sure is that the process of seeking employment and for finding employees would be tailored according to the needs of the organization and the economy type they work in. For the autonomists using a full reputation economy, groups are likely getting together to work on some sort of creative endeavor. For that, they will be looking at the collaborative gestalt and will favor someone who fills a needed niche over someone with more skills. While the more skilled person adds more to the group as an individual, it is the output of the group that is being maximized rather than the additive skills of the members. The group can make use of the reputation network information to find someone suitably qualified and of the appropriate psychological profile. They would probably work together on a trial basis to see if the predicted match actually works, and go from there. For currency economies the process will depend on the power dynamic between labor and capital. Lacking the wealth of information about prospective employees that is built into the nature of a reputation economy, the employer is playing a game under conditions of uncertainty, and has a few options depending on economic circumstances. If there is a labor glut, it is in the best interest of an employer to keep their current employees living under a slight, but constant, cloud of worry and paranoia. This is easily accomplished with policies that require an explicit percentage of the workforce be fired every quarter, so even those who are secure in their positions don't feel that way. Hiring becomes a matter of reducing the applicant pool to a small enough group that it is worth the expenditure to gather more information on them. If the pool of qualified individuals is still too large, an arbitrary measure is used to drop the number of candidates to the required size, which leads to some interesting (and sometimes unfortunate) attempts by potential employees to stand out in some way. The next step is to make sure that people who look good on paper are what they appear to be. Common tactics are background checks, standardized testing, and interviews where the employer has a group of about five people playing tag-team with eviscerating the interviewee's written claims. A transitional economy may be the worst for a potential employee. The employer has access to reputation network information, and since there are still scarcity issues in a transitional economy, the candidate still needs to be working to have a decent standard of living. Worse, unlike a full reputation economy, the reputation information will be incomplete and will tend to reflect the negative aspects of the candidate's history more than the positive ones. Of course, if the candidate actually has the outstanding abilities and history of accomplishments they claim to have, none of this is a problem. This is also not all bad, as the same methods that are bad for the job seeker are good for the group doing the hiring. It becomes easier to catch candidates that are overselling themselves, just making things up, or hiding something about their past that might damage the company. The are also much less likely to hire someone and find out a few months later that this person has a crappy personality and can't do the work they were hired to do. The reputation networks will do much of the work of differentiating the workforce, so the pool of possible employees is smaller and of less variable quality. Much like everything in the transhuman future, the employment system is lean and efficient with respect to itself, the talented and brilliant are showered with rewards, and the level of potential accomplishment is much higher for those individuals. It just sucks to be merely good, let alone mediocre, bad, or to have some form of disability. This leads me to another question: What would an education system look like in Eclipse Phase?
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